Do as we say, but don't do as we do.

[Beskar]

It is a grand conspiracy by pinko-communist liberal agenda so they control us to the point we have to buy Carbon Credits just to breath. It is my personal right in the Consitution to climb into my Humvee to mow down young children and pump noxtious gases into the atomsphere simply to drive around the corner to the Kiwi-mart for a pint of milk.

What do they think they are, telling me I should use "hydrogen" fuel cells as a car like some limp-wristed pink tie wearing liberal, it is my the almighty given right to decimate the enviroment as I see fit and drive a real mans car while pedestrians choke on my fumes.

Alternative power, ppstfff, who cares about alternative power when I want to be knee deep in crude oil and greased up to my elbows like a real manly man raking in the money with my Oil stock shares and prices skyrocketing. I laugh in your face that apparently the skeptics are heavily funded by Oil tycoons, they are not doing it for the money, they just want to slap your liberal backsides big style so you can cry to your mommy and nannystate.

Don't get me started on those fancydancy 'intellectuals' and all their phds. PHD don't mean nothing other than Pinko-Here-DoctoringReports. All theirs 'theories' and 'experiments' don't mean anything, I have a theory, and that is that we should stick all their theories where the sun don't shine, then the world would be a far better place.

The old joke may become true, we will be taxed for the very air we breathe.

Damn, you beat me to it, I was posting that while you posted yours.

[Furunculus]

using my excellent emotional intelligence*, i've detected a much greater degree of distress in you recently Beskar.

you used to be much 'cooler' with your mild lefty'ism, yet for some reason it has become much more strident and desperate of late, why is this?

















* in fact i have none, i'm frequently told i need to at least try and get in touch with my feminine side, and recognise that i am largely incapable of empathising.

[Beskar]

using my excellent emotional intelligence*, i've detected a much greater degree of distress in you recently Beskar.

I started to agree with Thatcher and my self-denial is tearing me apart. Nah, the post was just highly sarcastic and it was trying to paint the picture that maybe majority of the arguments of Climate Skepticism just reek of politicalisation and some really crude views.

While there could be debates to the effects and the figures, there are major things that need to occur anyway, regardless, so it doesn't even bother me that much. The fact is, we are going to run out of Oil, so switching to alternative sources even now would be a good idea, it would also keep oil prices lower, due to lower demand.

Also, through various methods and ways, alternative methods would also bring in independent energy security to various nations. I am not sure about you Furunculus at times, but I bet you agree that you don't want Russia dominating the energy supply of Europe and the British Isles. (or the Middle East being the supplier of our energy needs)

Recycling is also another issue, through recycling, we could again reuse vast amounts of resources which otherwise would end up in the bottom of the ocean or in a hole in the ground, and for many materials, recycling is also far cheaper than getting it from new. There are also various safety hazards and other things related to landfill sites, and other various issues which could go on for pages, but I think we can agree here.

There are a lot of issues and things under the whole Global Enviroment agenda which really do need to be done, or really considered to be done. While there are some things I disagree with (such as Carbon Credits) and other issues, they are pretty much second priority compared to what I just listed which would obviously deal with those secondary issues at the same time.

Majority of angry replies about Global Skepticism, goes into many issues such as "Change", people dislike it, even if it is for the better. Then there are narrow-minded views as people cannot conceptualise the problems, thus they just simply dismiss it. Then there is the "we have an axe to grind" who simply just grinds axes on the next thing. Then there are the obviously millionaire and billionaire examples where the whole Climate Change issue means they lose money from their Oligarch oil investments.

As for any personal distress, might be subconsciously venting some distress over deadlines.

[Furunculus]

1. While there could be debates to the effects and the figures, there are major things that need to occur anyway, regardless, so it doesn't even bother me that much. The fact is, we are going to run out of Oil, so switching to alternative sources even now would be a good idea, it would also keep oil prices lower, due to lower demand.

2. Also, through various methods and ways, alternative methods would also bring in independent energy security to various nations. I am not sure about you Furunculus at times, but I bet you agree that you don't want Russia dominating the energy supply of Europe and the British Isles. (or the Middle East being the supplier of our energy needs)

3. Recycling is also another issue, through recycling, we could again reuse vast amounts of resources which otherwise would end up in the bottom of the ocean or in a hole in the ground, and for many materials, recycling is also far cheaper than getting it from new. There are also various safety hazards and other things related to landfill sites, and other various issues which could go on for pages, but I think we can agree here.

4. There are a lot of issues and things under the whole Global Enviroment agenda which really do need to be done, or really considered to be done. While there are some things I disagree with (such as Carbon Credits) and other issues, they are pretty much second priority compared to what I just listed which would obviously deal with those secondary issues at the same time.

5. Majority of angry replies about Global Skepticism, goes into many issues such as "Change", people dislike it, even if it is for the better. Then there are narrow-minded views as people cannot conceptualise the problems, thus they just simply dismiss it. Then there is the "we have an axe to grind" who simply just grinds axes on the next thing. Then there are the obviously millionaire and billionaire examples where the whole Climate Change issue means they lose money from their Oligarch oil investments.

6. Though you miss out where conservative party policy is to oppress the masses, while left-wing policy is liberating them, or distributing wealth to help all in the greater good. But those details seem to go unmentioned.


As for any personal distress, might be subconsciously venting some distress over deadlines.

1. agreed.
2. very much agreed.
3. i know, i helped start a recycling technology company valued by Grant Thorntons at £1.7m, with the aim of empowering local communities by source separated segregation of recycling which would allow local reprocessing into raw materials for manufacture, thus keeping the value of the material within the community. oh i know all about it.
4. as i have already said on several occasions; there are lots of green things i agree with, which is a separate matter for my general disdain for the politically motivated greens
5. i recognise that such people exist, in much the same way that i believe that the rabid element of the green movement are the inadequates of the lefty movement who need a cause to maintain a sense of self-worth, and thus needed to reinvent themselves when their previous cause failed in order to avoid a rapid onset on suicidal depression.
6. lol, oppress the masses? you realise that the current conservative party is an amalgam of the old tories, and the libertarian rump of the whigs? free-to-be-a-slave, or a slave-to-freedom, i know which i would rather be.

good luck