So I found something useful for once.

[HunGeneral]

Could work nicely if say Makedonia could take over epeiros if they have a royal marriage with Phyrrus's family and all his descendents (Molossons - although I know this means a tribe not actually a family) were to .... pass away .... out of different causes...

It could maybe work the other way around too, but I don't know if this script could be tied to FM's at all...

[Rahwana]

KH -> Pan Hellenic Reform
Useful after they beaten Epeiros, Makedonia, and Pergamon ... they could be roleplaying offering them membership in the League.... quite realistic

AS / Makedon / Ptolies -> Alexandrian Empire Reform
Yeah... if the other two could be "persuaded"....... you could bring back Alexander's Empire too

Aedui / Avernii / Casse -> United Celt Reform
Stop our difference brothers! and let us become one big and happy Celtai family... oh yes, hapiness can be brought here with a lot of beers and women!

[satalexton]

and the romaioktonoi reform: All factions set aside their petty differences, to destory the One True Barbaroi

[ziegenpeter]

But can you script this for several factions? Otherwise I guess the EB team won't use it for balancing reasons.

[antisocialmunky]

and the romaioktonoi reform: All factions set aside their petty differences, to destory the One True Barbaroi

You know, just because I made a joking trait post doesn't mean you should drag that stuff back into the forum if you remember what happened last time.

@Sonic, I don't think the reunificiation of Alexander's empire would be a good candidate. I doubt there would be any way to persuade those factions to get together. The only candidate in the East might be reunification of the Seleucid Empire.

[ziegenpeter]

So that would be Seleukids, Pontos, Baktria, Hay? Pergamon?

[Ca Putt]

I would think it's the other way around: Bactrians, Parthians etc rebell against Seleukid rule thus they fight until the last Rebel City/FM whereas the Successors would be united if all cities/FMs yield to one Faction leader. if all Ptolemaoi FMs/Cities find the AS Faction leader more suited than the own and would not value loyality too much they would probably join the cause of the AS.

Pan Hellenic League :D that's exactly what I'm playing in my KH campaign tho it is a bit annoying to FD Macedonia and Epeiros over and over again after they backstabbed me and I took them one provine and a lot of soldiers. and it would be cool if Hellenic cities would join my cause if under severde destress and not afterwords :/ - Syracus down to 5 men garrison (on huge) does not want to be bribed by me :(((((

[Skullheadhq]

So with no heirs, they could join your faction as well :)

Yup



I was actually a bit wrong on that, if you meant true, born as baby, children. If he hasn't got children who haven't come of age yet coded for him in descr_strat, and faction expands so game starts wanting to give it more generals, he's likely to end up with adopted generals filling the slots, especially if its an AI controlled faction.


the other thing to look at would be to use an ancillary derived from the inherited traits, which is passed to real son and heirs.... you can quite easily code monitors to use

and not FactionwideAncillaryExists Im_a_heir_anc true

checking for faction not having a trait is messier as there isn't a FactionwideTraitExists command, though you could probably get round it with counters

[Cute Wolf]

I would think it's the other way around: Bactrians, Parthians etc rebell against Seleukid rule thus they fight until the last Rebel City/FM whereas the Successors would be united if all cities/FMs yield to one Faction leader. if all Ptolemaoi FMs/Cities find the AS Faction leader more suited than the own and would not value loyality too much they would probably join the cause of the AS.

Pan Hellenic League :D that's exactly what I'm playing in my KH campaign tho it is a bit annoying to FD Macedonia and Epeiros over and over again after they backstabbed me and I took them one provine and a lot of soldiers. and it would be cool if Hellenic cities would join my cause if under severde destress and not afterwords :/ - Syracus down to 5 men garrison (on huge) does not want to be bribed by me :(((((

Yeah, given the true nature about Koinon Hellenon, I predict they will present them with league membership if some of the Hellenic factions are down. Quite realistic if the condition wasn't the elimination of their leader, but giving a big sums of money and in the announcement box, it will be written as "commitment to join the cause, and rebuild the ruins of war"...

Maybe KH could absorb Makedonia, Syrakousai, Pergamon, and Epeiros to made their Pan Hellenic league bigger....

According to the scripting codes, yes... this was one way reunification, so we couldn't hope the EB team will include them on their official relases, but maybe some of us will made simple submod for KH about it (because unification is largely pointless if you have much unit difference and untrainable units, they will be disbanded and leave you with several empty cities, so the EDB and EDU must be altered significantly - giving KH all the unit that Epeiros, Makedon, Syrakousai, and Pergamon has, as well as their training grounds)

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Now about the celts, it will be simpler if the condition are Marriage alliance (has seen it proposed on some Kingdom's mod that still on progress), means if an Aedui Princess can marry Avernii Faction leader / heir, and that guy die childless.... Another faction will become theirs... Well, emulating the old MTW mechanics eh? Well, women are always men's biggest weakness.....

[Macilrille]

and the romaioktonoi reform: All factions set aside their petty differences, to destory the One True Barbaroi

*Sighs and goes to put Sata back on ignore* some people just will not grow up...

Sorry Ludens for sending a jab Sata's way he cannot reply to in kind, and yes you will warn me, but I did unignore him in the naive belief that he had learned his lesson. guess I am naive as well... I held that belief for a week and let one other romaioktonoi-comment pass as "old-habits-die-hard"/"forgive-and-forget", but two in a week...

[Darius]

So are we going back to having anti-roman hate-rallies or is this just an isolated outburst?

[HunGeneral]

So are we going back to having anti-roman hate-rallies or is this just an isolated outburst?

Just the later if you ask me.

[Cute Wolf]

Well, back to topic now...

After opening and modifying some "unification script" at least they didn't use any extra faction slots as long as there was no new "united" faction (so that wasn't unification, but annexation / absorbed faction)), and at least now I confirm, even without same unit, their FMs and generals will be converted to your own General Unit... but then, unification without immediate garrison is means asking for a massive revolt. Maybe we could do something to Pan Hellenic reform, and Pan Celtic Reform...

[Ludens]

So are we going back to having anti-roman hate-rallies or is this just an isolated outburst?

There won't be any romaioktonoi rallies on my watch.

I don't mind single comments about hating the Romans: the humour has worn thin by now, but it's not my job to decide what's funny. This, however, was just spamming.

BTW: we have a "report post" button for such things. Feel free to use it.

[Skullheadhq]

I thought it was just suggestion for a minimod Sata made there, but anyways, are there any hardcoded limits for those 'unions'?