So I found something useful for once.

**Macilrille** · 12-10-2009, 11:30

Originally Posted by satalexton

and the romaioktonoi reform: All factions set aside their petty differences, to destory the One True Barbaroi

*Sighs and goes to put Sata back on ignore* some people just will not grow up...

Sorry Ludens for sending a jab Sata's way he cannot reply to in kind, and yes you will warn me, but I did unignore him in the naive belief that he had learned his lesson. guess I am naive as well... I held that belief for a week and let one other romaioktonoi-comment pass as "old-habits-die-hard"/"forgive-and-forget", but two in a week...

**Darius** · 12-10-2009, 12:23

So are we going back to having anti-roman hate-rallies or is this just an isolated outburst?

**HunGeneral** · 12-10-2009, 13:11

Originally Posted by Darius

So are we going back to having anti-roman hate-rallies or is this just an isolated outburst?

Just the later if you ask me.

**Cute Wolf** · 12-10-2009, 13:43

Well, back to topic now...

After opening and modifying some "unification script" at least they didn't use any extra faction slots as long as there was no new "united" faction (so that wasn't unification, but annexation / absorbed faction)), and at least now I confirm, even without same unit, their FMs and generals will be converted to your own General Unit... but then, unification without immediate garrison is means asking for a massive revolt. Maybe we could do something to Pan Hellenic reform, and Pan Celtic Reform...

**Macilrille** · 12-10-2009, 14:50

If I recall correctly the one time I did do the Kalmar Union, you get units and Generals in their cities already as their units as well as yours convert to the new ones. Sweden became part of Denmark-Norway and Denmark-Norway got some new units to build and a new flag. Though I do not think the latter very historical.

**Ca Putt** · 12-10-2009, 15:08

so just so I get this right(as I have not played M2TW to that extent): when you merge your units get reformed and you get the ole units of faction B) generals are standardised as well?
for a pan hellenic League it would be probable if the KH would be able to train units like Hetairoi and Pezhetairoi additionaly to the KH rooster. I always feel silly when I hold Macedonia and am still unable to train Phalangitai.

**antisocialmunky** · 12-10-2009, 15:14

Yeah, the more I think about this the more I lvoe the idea of the KH being able to Unite Magna Grecia, Ionia, and the Black Sea Greeks.

**Ludens** · 12-11-2009, 16:04

Originally Posted by Darius

So are we going back to having anti-roman hate-rallies or is this just an isolated outburst?

There won't be any romaioktonoi rallies on my watch.

I don't mind single comments about hating the Romans: the humour has worn thin by now, but it's not my job to decide what's funny. This, however, was just spamming.

BTW: we have a "report post" button for such things. Feel free to use it.

**Skullheadhq** · 12-11-2009, 19:54

I thought it was just suggestion for a minimod Sata made there, but anyways, are there any hardcoded limits for those 'unions'?

**Cute Wolf** · 12-11-2009, 21:15

Originally Posted by Skullheadhq

I thought it was just suggestion for a minimod Sata made there, but anyways, are there any hardcoded limits for those 'unions'?

Yeah, actually those Romaioktonoi reform are quite Impossible... I remember to read in TWC that someone allready test how much faction can be united, and they got CTD when reach the 7th or 8th factions, but 3 or 4 factions works fine... Maybe we should focus our "minimod" in the union of factions with similar cultures, such as pan-Hellenic (KH), or pan-Celtic (Aedui), that as a role, the unifying potential factions most likely are "federation type" because it was more logic anyway to enter the union as equals, than become lower subjects of a foreign king.

**Macilrille** · 12-11-2009, 23:59

I dunno, the Swedes were definately the junior partner in that relationship. Which eventually made them rebel and the Union dissolve. Their royal family was dead, the somewhat related Meckelnburgers they had called in to rule instead eventually proved tyrants, so the Swedish high nobility almost begged Margrete I "of Denmark" (officially women could not rule then, but I do not think we have had many rulers of such competence before or after her and rule she did) to support them and become their sovereign. She eventually cememnted this with the Union of Kalmar. Too bad it did not last, had the Danish rule been more lenient the Union might still be around...

*Mecklenburgers not Meckelnburgers

**Skullheadhq** · 12-12-2009, 10:56

An Ptolemy Annexion by the Seleucids with some counters for their main cities would be fun, and if North Africa fell from the Karthadastei, would the Spanish Provinces come to their aid with an invasion?