So I found something useful for once.

**Cute Wolf** · 12-11-2009, 21:15

Originally Posted by Skullheadhq

I thought it was just suggestion for a minimod Sata made there, but anyways, are there any hardcoded limits for those 'unions'?

Yeah, actually those Romaioktonoi reform are quite Impossible... I remember to read in TWC that someone allready test how much faction can be united, and they got CTD when reach the 7th or 8th factions, but 3 or 4 factions works fine... Maybe we should focus our "minimod" in the union of factions with similar cultures, such as pan-Hellenic (KH), or pan-Celtic (Aedui), that as a role, the unifying potential factions most likely are "federation type" because it was more logic anyway to enter the union as equals, than become lower subjects of a foreign king.

**Macilrille** · 12-11-2009, 23:59

I dunno, the Swedes were definately the junior partner in that relationship. Which eventually made them rebel and the Union dissolve. Their royal family was dead, the somewhat related Meckelnburgers they had called in to rule instead eventually proved tyrants, so the Swedish high nobility almost begged Margrete I "of Denmark" (officially women could not rule then, but I do not think we have had many rulers of such competence before or after her and rule she did) to support them and become their sovereign. She eventually cememnted this with the Union of Kalmar. Too bad it did not last, had the Danish rule been more lenient the Union might still be around...

*Mecklenburgers not Meckelnburgers

**Skullheadhq** · 12-12-2009, 10:56

An Ptolemy Annexion by the Seleucids with some counters for their main cities would be fun, and if North Africa fell from the Karthadastei, would the Spanish Provinces come to their aid with an invasion?

**Rahwana** · 12-12-2009, 18:10

Actually, I think more about Roman subduing reform, when Makedonia, Aedui, and Pergamon can be incorporated "rather peacefully", because aedui provide roman allies in the end, Makedonia was humbled and taken as client kingdom, and Pergamon are absorbed ally.

**Macilrille** · 12-12-2009, 18:30

Why Mac amd Aedui? They were incorperated everything but peacefully but instead through war.

Pergamon, That city in N Africa, Massilia and Rhodos either joined the Roman Empire (were bequethed) or became allies that was slowly incorporated. Syracouse might have as well had the son followed the Old man's footsteps, but he did not so they changed sides and were taken by the usual Roman appliance of force. There are others I think, but I am a bit under the weather and thus forgetful, so look in my Roman Timeline.

In any case, unification should be extremely rare. IMO it should only happen if all FMs die or some such.

**Skullheadhq** · 12-12-2009, 20:01

Originally Posted by Macilrille

In any case, unification should be extremely rare. IMO it should only happen if all FMs die or some such.

assasin...ready!

I'll send forth my assasins to conquer the world :)

**antisocialmunky** · 12-13-2009, 22:12

Its really highly dependent actually. I wouldn't put it in except for factions in 272 especially for the Romans since they usually allied with the weaker side to womp the stronger side and then client the weaker side.