Never Forget

[Louis VI the Fat]

My, my, ain't people jealous again...


What is it with great size that so upsets the less endowed?

[a completely inoffensive name]

I like the Texan philosophy that Texas is awesome/amazing, it gets annoying for me how it seems very few other states have actual pride for their state government, and proceed to not a give a crap about anything except the presidential election. Maybe if Californians had more respect for their state we would not have DGAF'd on our state elections and let the state get into billions of dollars of debt.

[Strike For The South]

I like the Texan philosophy that Texas is awesome/amazing, it gets annoying for me how it seems very few other states have actual pride for their state government, and proceed to not a give a crap about anything except the presidential election. Maybe if Californians had more respect for their state we would not have DGAF'd on our state elections and let the state get into billions of dollars of debt.

Well that's just it.

There from California. They elected a NAZI as there govener

[KukriKhan]

I like the Texan philosophy that Texas is awesome/amazing, it gets annoying for me how it seems very few other states have actual pride for their state government, and proceed to not a give a crap about anything except the presidential election. Maybe if Californians had more respect for their state we would not have 'd on our state elections and let the state get into billions of dollars of debt.

Point of Order: it's more complicated than just the Cal citizenry didn't care. It's that + badly-crafted Initiatives (with great intentions, but no funding sources), a hopelessly partisan (and therefore useless) Assembly who, failing in their own jobs, pass the decisions onto the voters via those badly-written Initiatives, that get passed by a simple majority of voters who managed to show up at the polls that day.

We (California) are in dire need of a Constitutional Convention, to re-craft how Cali Law is made.

As a footnote, I point out that California was also an Independent Republic for awhile; for a total of about 21 days. Somebody thought it'd be a good idea to get a US sailor-boy to hoist the Stars and Stripes near Sacramento - bam! we became a colony of the US, and later, a State. One can only wonder what life might be like in the Republic of Califia.

[Fisherking]

Yep!

The California Republic, declared by 33 men, likely drunk, likely US soldiers, at the very least filibusters.

But it worked. It never would have made an actual Republic. Mexico would have crushed the revolt just as the first Texas rebellion in 1830 was crushed.

It was an age of filibusters and most didn’t work too well.

[KukriKhan]

I was going to correct your use of "filibuster", until I looked it up:

The term filibuster was first used in 1851. It was derived from the Spanish filibustero meaning pirate or freebooter. This term had evolved from the French word flibustier, which itself evolved from the Dutch vrijbuiter (freebooter). This term was applied at the time to American adventurers, mostly from Southern states, who sought to overthrow the governments of Central American states, and was transferred to the users of the filibuster, seen as a tactic for pirating or hijacking debate

You taught me something today. Thanks.

[Pannonian]

Point of Order: it's more complicated than just the Cal citizenry didn't care. It's that + badly-crafted Initiatives (with great intentions, but no funding sources), a hopelessly partisan (and therefore useless) Assembly who, failing in their own jobs, pass the decisions onto the voters via those badly-written Initiatives, that get passed by a simple majority of voters who managed to show up at the polls that day.

We (California) are in dire need of a Constitutional Convention, to re-craft how Cali Law is made.

As a footnote, I point out that California was also an Independent Republic for awhile; for a total of about 21 days. Somebody thought it'd be a good idea to get a US sailor-boy to hoist the Stars and Stripes near Sacramento - bam! we became a colony of the US, and later, a State. One can only wonder what life might be like in the Republic of Califia.

You should have maintained your independence until now. Then you could offer to join the Union in return for the US bailing out your incompetent government and massive debts.

[KukriKhan]

You should have maintained your independence until now. Then you could offer to join the Union in return for the US bailing out your incompetent government and massive debts.

Yeah. Or declare war on the US over water rights, then surrender when the first shots get fired, and get foreign aid for 50 years.

[InsaneApache]

Yeah. Or declare war on the US over water rights, then surrender when the first shots get fired, and get foreign aid for 50 years.

That must be where the Duchy of Grand Fenwick got the idea from.