Trouble with/question concerning EB script.

[Aram]

Hello. I am currently playing a campaign as the Romani. I have played one campaign previously as the Qarthadasti. During my previous campaign, I had clicked the advisor "show me how" button every time I loaded the campaign, but apparently it failed to "register" that I had done so once and my campaign was ruined. I do not want to go through this frustrating experience a second time with my Romani campaign. Much to my distress, as I was just continuing an intense campaign in Egypt, I saw a reminder about turning on the EB script where the historical quotes customarily appear in the loading screen. I am CERTAIN that I did indeed hit the "show me how" button during this current gaming session. Does this reminder, for whatever reason, sometimes appear although the script is in fact loaded? If not, why would the script not load even though I hit the "show me how" button? Finally, is there any possible way to ENSURE that the script is definitely running at any given time during gameplay? Thank you very much in advance for your assistance; unfortunately, I am not tech-savvy at all, so if your response could kindly be in very simple computer-layperson terms it would be greatly appreciated.

[Biowulf]

To my knowledge the reminder you saw on the loading screen is merely that, a reminder. It doesn't mean you haven't activated the script.
I don't know why the script sometimes doesn't load when you hit the "show me how" button, I assume it's a glitch and always double-check by clicking on more than one settlement. Every time you click on a city you own and the script isn't activated the advisor will show up. That's how you know for sure.

[XSamatan]

He is right. This reminder is just a loading screen.
If the reminder does not appear if you load a save the first, that is a bug.
If, however, you load a save after you not quit the game, then sometimes the advisor will not appear the first time you click on a city

XSamatan

[Aram]

Thank you both very much. Perhaps what I was dealing with was a bug that had nothing to do with the script. Since I posted my request for assistance, I spent a few hours playing a Casse campaign, as I didn't want to jeopardize all the work I had put into my Romani campaign. Oddly enough, the same problem that had occured during my Qarthadastim campaign occured again (and I am using a different PC). In spite of my clicking the "show me how" button, at the beginning of my next turn I was fast-forwarded to the year AD 14 and all of the "year in history" announcements appeared (where announcements routinely appear). Again, I am certain that I had hit the "show me how" button, and I had clicked on more than one settlement without seeing the advisor pop up again. However, during the series of AI turns, I noticed the advisor pop up in the upper right corner as usual, only to have him immediately disappear upon the beginning of my turn (the turn in which everything had suddenly rushed forward to AD 14). If anyone can explain this, that would be excellent. Meanwhile I've resolved to use multiple save slots for any given campaign so I can always jump back if need be. Thank you.

Note: If any of the members of the EB team view this post, I just want to commend you on the most enjoyable gaming experience of any sort that I've ever had in my life.

[bigstape]

When I'm in a hurry, I sometimes accidently dismiss the script reminder by clicking on the advisor when I meant to click 'show me how.'

[XSamatan]

Thank you both very much. Perhaps what I was dealing with was a bug that had nothing to do with the script. Since I posted my request for assistance, I spent a few hours playing a Casse campaign, as I didn't want to jeopardize all the work I had put into my Romani campaign. Oddly enough, the same problem that had occured during my Qarthadastim campaign occured again (and I am using a different PC). In spite of my clicking the "show me how" button, at the beginning of my next turn I was fast-forwarded to the year AD 14 and all of the "year in history" announcements appeared (where announcements routinely appear). Again, I am certain that I had hit the "show me how" button, and I had clicked on more than one settlement without seeing the advisor pop up again. However, during the series of AI turns, I noticed the advisor pop up in the upper right corner as usual, only to have him immediately disappear upon the beginning of my turn (the turn in which everything had suddenly rushed forward to AD 14). If anyone can explain this, that would be excellent. Meanwhile I've resolved to use multiple save slots for any given campaign so I can always jump back if need be. Thank you.

This jump to the end of the game is a bug related to the script. Did you change any files? Maybe your installation is corrupted, is that jumping-bug repeatable or does he hit randomly? Having the same failure on two installations would be very odd.

XSamatan

[Aram]

This jump to the end of the game is a bug related to the script. Did you change any files? Maybe your installation is corrupted, is that jumping-bug repeatable or does he hit randomly? Having the same failure on two installations would be very odd.

XSamatan

No, I did not change any files (in fact, I don't know how to change files). The problem seems to be random. I suppose the non-technical solution is to save often in several different slots; I just have to be sure to remember to do so. I'm actually rather surprised that this seems to be an infrequent problem, because as I've mentioned it has occurred on two different PCs. Perhaps it's a problem with my RTW disc?

[XSamatan]

This should not be related to RTW because it is a EB-script that works not right in your case. In any other cases I'm aware, a complete new-installation helped, but this might not help you. Did you copy the RTW+EB folder to the other PC, or are this two separate installation progresses? Did you install EB from the same source (meaning: did you download it twice)?

XSamatan

[Aram]

It was two separate installation processes. I believe that I downloaded the EB file using uTorrent in both cases. I'm doing fine now just saving my game in different slots as a form of insurance should it occur again.
I actually have another question. I am a busy student, and the only way I can manage to get in a decent amount of game time is to mute the sound and music on the game and listen to audio books or music (Baroque and Classical music is an independent, informal study project of mine) using windows media player. Is there some way that I can actually cause EB to play whatever I need to listen to as an alternative to the sound effects/music, instead of having to run WMP?
Finally, I noticed a loading screen discussing the composition of the music for the game which said something to the effect that "ancient Hellenic music sounds jarring to modern ears." This sounds fascinating to me! Does anyone know where I can locate some modern recordings of music from the ancient world? Also, what forum is the appropriate one in which to ask questions such as the last one? Thank you!

[XSamatan]

If you have downloaded the files with torrent, no failures got to be in the files. It's very odd happening on both PC....save a lot! I can give you in this case no more advice.

Recording music:
The easy way is to mute the music in EB, and have wmp separately.
The hard way is to get music files into RTW, for this I'll suggest you search the forums.

I do not know much about music...so I suggest to search this forum and if you got not the information open a new thread in the main section.

XSamatan

[Aram]

Alright. Thank you again very much!

[Kleitos]

hello - well this jump forward in history happened yesterday in my first campaign in 1.2 version as well ...it was also AD ..shortly after AD quite possible that it was 14 AD.

..but i just loaded the last quicksave before that happened - and afterwards it was alright.

but i played not long - not so much time these days..

i guess i did not understand this procedure with the "advisor" and the "show me how" button fully.. do we have to click this button (and before the advisor) everytime - at every begin of season and end of it - and every loading and quitting?

(thought only the first time at the beginning) ..i mean if a campaign will be ruined with that - its almost certain that you forget that from time to time, or not?

also - what will happen when i use the "reset" the advisor button (i guess in the game options when clicking Esc and "game options") ..didnt want to try it for the case that a campaign will be ruined.


p.s. ..and yea - i subscribe fully to Arams comment on EB - just awesome :-) ..well ..chess excluded ..but from pc games in any case

[XSamatan]

You have to click the "show-me-how" button on the advisor every time you load a game. If you load it the first time you have to. If you re-load a save you have to.

Be aware that if you want to play with an other faction, you have to quit EB and start it new from.

If you miss to activate the script once or twice, this should not be the trick, but if you forget it many times your campaign is useless IMHO.

The "reset advisor" button has nothing to do with the script.

XSamatan

Oh, and please read the FAQ

[Kleitos]

hmm well i read now the point regarding the campaign script but dont understand that ..its quite a short explanation for something which appears very strange - every time clicking on that ..i mean - it wasnt necessary in ver. 0.81.

also when do i know that the clicking procedure was a success? ..every time when i load now a game and click on the advisor he just disappears without having the chance to click the "show me how" button. and when i only click the "show me how" button then its colour turns grey and thats it - so i dont know if this clicking was for any use??

cant help it but i find that not convenient ...of course i dont know anything from writing such a programm but its such a perfect game actually - is there no other way to load that except in this strange manner?

..but if there is no other way we have to live with it ;-) ..so before there was mentioned to click also after ending every season on it. ..in the faq´s is only mentioned at the beginning and at every loading of a saved game... so is it not necessary to think while playin - to click around on it at the begin and end of every season?

[XSamatan]

IMHO that is the easiest way to load all the scripts into EB.

The advisor will only disappear if you successful activate the script, that should be sign enough. Also the "Year in Time" popup at the beginning of every 4th turn is a good sign.
If you activate it right, the advisor will just appear once in a game....

XSamatan

[Kleitos]

well yes the year in time comes regularly and the incident with the time jump forward to AD 14 happened only once .. seems to be alright.

once in a game - do you mean only once at the beginning of a campaign? ...cause he shows up also now but when i click on him there comes no message anymore he just dissappears without having the chance to click the "show me how" button. and when i only click the "show me how" button then its colour turns grey.?

but i have to try it more - with more time on weekend i hope.

thanks,
kleitos

[XSamatan]

If you get the "Year in Time" thing, everything should be alright.

Save in different slots and every year in one separate, this way you shoulb be save to any bugs.

XSamatan

[Kleitos]

sorry - me again - i´m definitely a zero regarding computers ;-) - i just want to use em - ..what do you mean save in different slots? ..i only used the quicksave as known from playin vanilla RTW.

and any year seperate - dont get what you mean.?

kleitos

[XSamatan]

Wenn du im Spiel die Escape-Taste ("Esc") drückst erscheint im Spiel ein Menü. In diesem wählst du "Speichern" aus. Jetzt müsstest du zwei Dateinamen sehen (quicksave & autosave). Du kannst im Textfeld am unteren Ende des Menüs eigene Namen für deine Spielstände verwenden.
Ich würde empfehlen, einmal alle vier Runden, das Spiel unter Angabe der jeweiligen Jahreszahl zu speichern.

XSamatan