No mod tools?

**Mr Frost** · 12-24-2009, 16:48

Originally Posted by Monk

... however, they shouldn't have gotten the community's hopes up.

There are even laws against it {when selling products} in more than one country , but corporations generally get a "free pass" these days .

They're misleading about not haveing the time/resources for any tools though :

They could easily have managed to give us a file map and descriptions of what each columb in each file we can alter did for example . They couldn't have made the game if they didn't know and could have put it in a bloody text file even .

They could easily have given us tools similar to what the community has already created given they already know exactly how their own frikking code works .

I do not for an instant believe it would have taken them unreasonable nor excessive effort to manage a tool or file access {with instructions} to alter the basics of the starting possitions {unit placements , troop numbers per units , agents etc} .

We have yet to see even that much . "Most moddable of all T.W. games" my arse !

**cromwell** · 12-29-2009, 20:18

I may be mistaken since I haven't launched ETW since I bought it, however I believe Activision is involved with ETW. Do a search on the CEO for Activision and tell me if he sounds like he is friendly to gaming? I mean it's great to be profitable, but this guy is a total

!!

Activision will not release anything for free that could possibly interfere with any profitability. You will have to pay for everything, maps, content....... whatever they can monetize he will. I believe he said if it were up to him games would cost over $100, plus whatever else he could tak on later. I'm going to "try" and not buy anything activision sells. He really pisses you off when you listen to him.

The days when gamers ran gaming companies are long gone, now you have business men who could give a rats ass about modding tools and the like. "Pay them to do what and give it away for free...hahahah" quote from board room meeting when looking over billable hours.

Read why MW2 doesn't have dedicated servers and you will see the greed I'm talking about. Activision wasn't going to let another company make money by offering a service, with their game, so they removed the ability..simple as that.

I bet anything that CA thought it would be business as usual, when mentioning the modding tools and such, then got the memo from corporate, and got their knuckles rapped!

Later, hope all is well in TW land

FearofCromwell

**antisocialmunky** · 12-29-2009, 23:06

Its SEGA.

**cromwell** · 01-01-2010, 18:16

My argument still stands. So what if it's Sega, you think now that DLC is acceptable they are not on the bandwagon?

I never heard of the term DLC two years ago, now we accept it, and pay for it. I know I know, we called it expansions, but a once a year expansion with a ton of changes is a little more acceptable. Paying for maps/ and a couple of units isn't! Remove modding and it's a new revenue stream.

Later,

**Fisherking** · 01-02-2010, 10:50

From the cycle that CA found them selves in, due to the problems with ETW, they didn’t issue the mod tools.

That was further complicated by the decision to make NTW into a standalone game rather than an expansion.

They have actually done some work with Darth, aiding him and showing him how to mod some of the files that no one has been able to figure out to this point.

I think I even read something on them now having someone dedicated to mod tools at this time.

I am sure we will get something. Sega is not EA and CA usually lives up to their promises, however long it takes.

**antisocialmunky** · 01-02-2010, 15:40

You know its weird that as of right now Activision has surpassed EA is lameness while EA has actually started to not be total money grubbing monkeys. Times they are a changin.

**Beskar** · 01-04-2010, 17:32

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

You know its weird that as of right now Activision has surpassed EA is lameness while EA has actually started to not be total money grubbing monkeys. Times they are a changin.

Unless it was the Red Alert 3 Steam deal. Everyone who bought a legal copy of the game has had their serial invalid.

**TheJian** · 01-04-2010, 09:06

Originally Posted by Fisherking

From the cycle that CA found them selves in, due to the problems with ETW, they didn’t issue the mod tools.

That was further complicated by the decision to make NTW into a standalone game rather than an expansion.

They have actually done some work with Darth, aiding him and showing him how to mod some of the files that no one has been able to figure out to this point.

I think I even read something on them now having someone dedicated to mod tools at this time.

I am sure we will get something. Sega is not EA and CA usually lives up to their promises, however long it takes.

This is why CA had to say what really went down, people read to much into things.