The Sweboz

[Unferth of Gergovia]

Hey there...I havent heard much topic on it...are there any other Sweboz fanatics out there? I love the Sweboz...there generals bodyguard is almost invincible and the Slagonz Club Infantry stop every Principe and Triarii in there path yet no one ever talks about them. I would love to hear some other peoples pros and cons on them and any useful strategies I havent come across yet.

[Macilrille]

Search a bit, there are lots of Sweboz fans and tactics. I am one, but the largest one must be Duguntz though he has not been around for a while.

[athanaric]

I'm preparing a huge Swêboz guide, including description of every native and expansion unit.

[Unferth of Gergovia]

Love to see it when your done... I cant get the reforms I dont know if its a bug or what...I love the slagonz club unit...they are the best to use against the romani

[Duguntz]

Hey fellow Sweboz fan!

i'm glad to have you as a brother in arm! Yeah, it's been a while since i came, studies and concert take a lot of time! Yes, the slogonez are the nightmare of any armoured opponent, I even beated (in MP) Hetairoi body guard. The secret? in the open, Sweboz are strong... but only strong... in the forest, they become invincible! use forest and ambush a lot, place your bodyguard on the center of the line, first line. They hold their ground as long as you want, even against cav, as they also carry spears. Use also your naked fanatics, they scare the crap out of everything, but engage them in combat as late as possible, not at all if possible, keep them right behind your fighting line, in support. Spring ambushes in the woods, as every single units of the sweboz have high charge ratio, the moral effect of a succesfull ''sprigning on the ennemy'' make them rout almost on touch. once, I made rout 2 units of triarii at the same time. I had my black naked dude hiding in woods and archers that attrected them in the foreast, then from the back, i threw some slogonez to cruch their armour and as thei were turning back, BANG , i charged with the naked men. .. routed instently. send your Juguntiz to pursue fleeing opponants, as they run fast and have a better stamina than many units in the game.

When you position your troup for a battle in the forest (when you're defending) try to place your unit organized ''randomly'' . I wanna say, not too far from each other so if one ambush fail, they can receive support, but not too close neither, so you can spring several ''surpise attack'' in one single battle. Example : one unit of principes or whatever attacks your boduguard who can't hide, well, you jump on their back with whatever close... in general (not always, but most of the time) that is sufficient to make them rout, or fight far less effectivly due to the moral effect. But if they rout soon, that means that they can rally soon, that's why you must send pursuer at them (that you placed on the verge of the forest, if you can afford to spend units for that in the battle!) The effect is huge, and as you'll be fighting often in disadventage (regarding the sheer number) you'll have to take full adventage of surprise attack. and in a battle, hiding many units at different places instead of in one or two line is the best way to spring many succesfull ambushes, as you can come from every different side.

Oh, and, appart from archer, TURN OFF auto-fire for all units, as they'll ruin the surprise! fire your missile when the ennemy is close enough, so you disrupt their formations, you scare the crap out of them... and you beat them .

So the master word in Sweboz tactics is : fight dirty! deceive your ennemy!

Well, i hoped it helped you, give me some news of your conquest if it did! this is my way of fighting, maybe it's not suited for everyone, so i do not clam it is the best! just my personal favourite!

[ziegenpeter]

Great post and this

So the master word in Sweboz tactics is : fight dirty! deceive your ennemy!

sums it up best!

If you are not in the forest, a bit cavalry can help. Although maybe the weakest faction in cav termes, you can use them with some effect. And if it's only getting slaughtered by other cav, to keep them away from your infantry. No, for real: Chase down archers and slingers with them, because they can be devastating for your lightly armored troops.
I tend to use less FMs as troops (somtimes I had them all in one army) but you can still have 2 or 3 in an army, especially your King and his heir. Battle=Glory=Power!
There was a nice role play thread around for the sweboz. Just search,

[Poulp']

Lots of wise words

Now, imagine yourself playing with Romani, against an AI that learnt from Duguntz... you play with camera general.

A few legions won't come back home.

[Apázlinemjó]

Hey there...I havent heard much topic on it...are there any other Sweboz fanatics out there? I love the Sweboz...there generals bodyguard is almost invincible and the Slagonz Club Infantry stop every Principe and Triarii in there path yet no one ever talks about them. I would love to hear some other peoples pros and cons on them and any useful strategies I havent come across yet.

In multiplayer the Swebóz have one of the weakest roster. Most of their units don't have real armor thus weak against archers which is exploitable by human players easily. They rely on chevrons too much, a Sloxonez without chevrons will hardly beat even a Principes for you and the chevrons are expensive to buy. Without forest bonuses the players who "use" civlised factions will hit you pretty hard in the battles with the tons of "trained" and "highly trained" units. Germanic Heavy cavalry is good...against Romans...and maybe the Celtic factions, but a Hetairoi or a cataphract will show who's the boss on the field. Worgozez are damn good flankers, however they are very expensive compared to their skills and the Black Painted German fanatics...sadly they are just not that useful except their "frighten infantry" effect. The Lugii Swordsmen....they are just a no, Bastarnae is much better at chopping armors and cheaper too, but they don't have real armor either. These are my experiences of my Swebóz battles from the last few weeks.