Will Sarah Palin be elected President of the US in 2012?

[Vuk]

I sure as heck hope/think so. That gal is awesome! Time to shatter that glass ceiling!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

No. I would support Bobby Jindal. Sarah Palin has already been painted as an incompetent by a media which is obviously hostile to her. Choosing her would not be a smart choice. She will not win. Neither of the no options apply to me though, because I am neither for or against her.

[Vuk]

No. I would support Bobby Jindal. Sarah Palin has already been painted as an incompetent by a media which is obviously hostile to her. Choosing her would not be a smart choice. She will not win. Neither of the no options apply to me though, because I am neither for or against her.

Yeah, the media can scream their heads off all they want, people are not completely stupid. Palin as already off to a great start clearing her name. Conservatives love her, I even know former Democrats who support her just because they hate the way the current regime is taking things. I would say that she has at least a 50/50 chance at winning. Not because the odds are in her favor (they are anything but), but because she is so good at overcoming odds. You can bet your pretty little behind that she will have my vote.

And BTW, if neither of the choices fit you, then just vote "Vuk is God".

[HoreTore]

If she does, I'm moving to Mars.

[Vuk]

If she does, I'm moving to Mars.

I'll send you a postcard then.

(but it will be COD )


EDIT: And what, are you afraid that her and her herd of gun toting, Bible thumping conservatives will invade your little peninsula? Honestly, if you are afraid of large scale global conflict, it is Obama I would be afraid of. His diplomacy is downright scary. :P

[Sasaki Kojiro]

No. She isn't very popular. She's in the news a lot, but so is tiger woods and he isn't going to be elected president.

[HoreTore]

I'll send you a postcard then.

(but it will be COD )


EDIT: And what, are you afraid that her and her herd of gun toting, Bible thumping conservatives will invade your little peninsula? Honestly, if you are afraid of large scale global conflict, it is Obama I would be afraid of. His diplomacy is downright scary. :P

Environmental policies decided in the US affects the rest of the globe, including me.
Financial policies decided in the US affects everyone else, including me.
Idiotic wars started by the US affect everyone else, including me.

And finally, there's the issue of simple influence; the president of the US holds a lot of it, and it seems that the more right-wing the republicans turn, our right-wing parties follow suit and become much more radical. If I have to suffer the retardedness of the Progress Party, I would surely prefer a toned-down version of it. The more liberal the US President is, the more likely they are to behave themselves as grown-ups.

And Obama? He's wrapping up two idiotic and failed wars started by Palin's ilk. Now which one would I prefer....hmmm.....

Oh, and I fully support Obama getting the peace prize, so.... No, I consider his diplomacy a true blessing opposed to the non-existant diplomacy we had with Bush and will have with Palin.

EDIT: There's also the fact that Palin is a gibbering moron. And a gibbering moron is quite capable of screwing over an economy. And if there's one thing the world does not need, it's a failed US economy. Even though I just had a blast at eBay, those dollars are like monopoly money now....

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

If she does, I'm moving to Mars.

You wouldn't believe how hard it is to get a visa.

[HoreTore]

You wouldn't believe how hard it is to get a visa.

For you, yes.... But that's because you're german, and that's a punishment because your people killed Jesus.

[spmetla]

If she does, I'm moving to Mars.

If it comes to that please reserve a seat on that rocket ship for me.

[Subotan]

I sure as heck hope/think so. That gal is awesome! Time to shatter that glass ceiling!

I take it you were a Hillary supporter then.

[Vuk]

I take it you were a Hillary supporter then.

Nah, I honestly do not give a crap about someone's gender. What I care about is if they are a good person and a good leader. I just like teasing the libs who like to pretend that that is really important to them.

EDIT: Let me rephrase that, I actually do have an interest in her gender. I think that it is important that everyone, including women know that they are just as free as anyone else to participate in the political process, and are not looked down on because of their gender. I think that if the first ever female President of the United States was an idiot, corrupt, etc it would make people doubt the ability of women to handle such a position. I think that it is important that the first woman be as good as the best man (Reagan), and I think Palin fits that ticket. It does not and never would effect my decision to vote. I will always vote for who I think is most fit for the job, but that is an awesome added bonus that I think will be beneficial for all women in changing the way that they are perceived.

[Ice]

No, and if she was elected, I'd hope someone would kill her for the good of the entire world. The lady has no business running as mayor of a town of 50 people.

[Reverend Joe]

I hate to go back a few posts, but I wanted to comment on this:

Let me rephrase that, I actually do have an interest in her gender. I think that it is important that everyone, including women know that they are just as free as anyone else to participate in the political process, and are not looked down on because of their gender. I think that if the first ever female President of the United States was an idiot, corrupt, etc it would make people doubt the ability of women to handle such a position. I think that it is important that the first woman be as good as the best man (Reagan), and I think Palin fits that ticket.

I respect your whole "women should be equal thing"; and yeah, women deserve the same respect as men; the deciding factor should be proving yourself. But like someone said earlier, I think Hillary Clinton basically proved that women can "break the glass ceiling." If it weren't for Obama, she would have been a shoe-in for president. Nobody even thought to question her eligibility for president until her campaign brought it up when she ran against Obama, and in a race against McCain, who would have doubtless have pulled as many underhanded moves as he did against Obama regarding her eligibility for president (because she was a woman, as opposed to black) it would have been easy to play the charisma card, something the Clintons have always been damn good at. It's almost a shame that she wasn't nominated, because she would have shown how much of an idiot Palin is by comparison (not that I feel too partial to Clinton, or anybody in politics, for that matter) although, to be fair, Palin would have never ended up in the limelight if Clinton had been nominated (or maybe... she would have been a good vote stealer; then again, a black man would be better, considering that Obama lost -- but I digress.)

Anyhow, I have listened to her plenty, and I don't think she's qualified. And that's not based on interviews, or plenty of other news sources I could have based my opinion on, but rather on the VP debate. She really came off as being at the level of Dan Quayle: she think's she's really smart and she's hot ****, but she's not. She should rely on her advisers a LOT more to sell herself, because she makes it painfully clear how inarticulate, if not incompetent, she is when she tries to defend a political position. She also has a bad habit of milking media attention; it makes her look desperate. The only other person who I have seen doing what she has done in the past year is Al Gore, and who the hell wants to listen to him? If a woman wants to be president, fine. But just like every man who runs, she should be qualified, and I don't see that in Palin.

Also, if you were to compare her to a good conservative president, you should bring up someone like Eisenhower, or Nixon (pre-Watergate, that is), people who actually managed to legitimately unite the nation, and lead it well. The only reason President Jellybeans ever won in such a landslide was because he played off of a movement of paranoia and craziness and reactions to the Cold War. People who have followed his model have inevitably met with very mixed results, because he is far too polarizing, not to mention that Obama won on a platform of working together (whether or not he followed up on it is debatable, but he sure as hell won.) That might not be a good sign for someone as polarizing as Palin.

[Vuk]

I hate to go back a few posts, but I wanted to comment on this:


I respect your whole "women should be equal thing"; and yeah, women deserve the same respect as men; the deciding factor should be proving yourself. But like someone said earlier, I think Hillary Clinton basically proved that women can "break the glass ceiling." If it weren't for Obama, she would have been a shoe-in for president. Nobody even thought to question her eligibility for president until her campaign brought it up when she ran against Obama, and in a race against McCain, who would have doubtless have pulled as many underhanded moves as he did against Obama regarding her eligibility for president (because she was a woman, as opposed to black) it would have been easy to play the charisma card, something the Clintons have always been damn good at. It's almost a shame that she wasn't nominated, because she would have shown how much of an idiot Palin is by comparison (not that I feel too partial to Clinton, or anybody in politics, for that matter) although, to be fair, Palin would have never ended up in the limelight if Clinton had been nominated (or maybe... she would have been a good vote stealer; then again, a black man would be better, considering that Obama lost -- but I digress.)

Anyhow, I have listened to her plenty, and I don't think she's qualified. And that's not based on interviews, or plenty of other news sources I could have based my opinion on, but rather on the VP debate. She really came off as being at the level of Dan Quayle: she think's she's really smart and she's hot ****, but she's not. She should rely on her advisers a LOT more to sell herself, because she makes it painfully clear how inarticulate, if not incompetent, she is when she tries to defend a political position. She also has a bad habit of milking media attention; it makes her look desperate. The only other person who I have seen doing what she has done in the past year is Al Gore, and who the hell wants to listen to him? If a woman wants to be president, fine. But just like every man who runs, she should be qualified, and I don't see that in Palin.

Also, if you were to compare her to a good conservative president, you should bring up someone like Eisenhower, or Nixon (pre-Watergate, that is), people who actually managed to legitimately unite the nation, and lead it well. The only reason President Jellybeans ever won in such a landslide was because he played off of a movement of paranoia and craziness and reactions to the Cold War. People who have followed his model have inevitably met with very mixed results, because he is far too polarizing, not to mention that Obama won on a platform of working together (whether or not he followed up on it is debatable, but he sure as hell won.) That might not be a good sign for someone as polarizing as Palin.

The fact is though, that the media and her opponents did attack her because of her sex.
As far as the VP debate, the McCain aids instructed her to be non-committal whenever possible, to avoid answering real questions, and basically did not let her be herself. Considering the restrictions placed upon her, I would say that she did pretty darned well.

As far as good conservative presidents, Eisenhower is anything but. I think I would rather slit my wrists than see another Eisenhower. Nixon had some really good points, but was a complete *** on others. Reagan was not a flipflopper, that is the truth. I would not hold that against him though. Not only did he win by a landslide, but he was one of the best Presidents that we have ever had.

[Beskar]

The fact is though, that the media and her opponents did attack her because of her sex.

Like how they kept attacking and keep attacking Obama for being Black? Then they come up with these wild conspiracy theories saying he isn't American just because he is black. Though Mc Cain wasn't even born in America. (he was born in an US foriegn army base)

[Reverend Joe]

The fact is though, that the media and her opponents did attack her because of her sex.

Because, personally, I saw nothing of it. In fact, I am very inclined to disagree just based on common sense, because the "Media" avoids sexism and racism like the plague. If they don;t like somebody, it's based entirely on their political views, because accusations of insulting a "class" will sink you like a stone in the political media.

As far as the VP debate, the McCain aids instructed her to be non-committal whenever possible, to avoid answering real questions, and basically did not let her be herself. Considering the restrictions placed upon her, I would say that she did pretty darned well.

Sorry, but you got your VP's mixed up. It was Joe Biden who was instructed to shut the hell up and take her inane rambling, becuase otherwise he would be seen as beating up a woman. As for Palin, I wouldn't be surprised if they told her to shut the hell up, but from what I saw, she didn't really listen to that advice.

As far as good conservative presidents, Eisenhower is anything but. I think I would rather slit my wrists than see another Eisenhower. Nixon had some really good points, but was a complete *** on others. Reagan was not a flipflopper, that is the truth. I would not hold that against him though. Not only did he win by a landslide, but he was one of the best Presidents that we have ever had.

I got nothing. I think you're just disagreeing with me for the hell of it here.