Conversion to Christianity?

[gollum]

IIRC in the Last Samurai the musket units did not hold any samurai in the fog - they were just wiped out.

[Togakure]

One great thing about converting early is early access to the morale penalty inflicted by firearms. In STW, morale matters, and even the lowly arquebus can be quite useful, particularly when coordinated with other morale attacks like flanking, cavalry charges, monk attacks, archery fire, assassination of a high-honor general on the field, etc.. The arq suffers in range and is more sensitive to moisture, but it's more powerful, and bottom line: still inflicts the morale penalty. If I go the Christian route, I'll usually have 1-2 units in an "ideal" 16-unit stack. If conditions permit, they can contribute much to routing the enemy and winning the battle.

Edit: on the subject of Warrior Monks, many times I have gone Christian in mid-game while controlling provinces with Buddhist Temples, producing monks, without incident. I just stationed a larger ashigaru and shinobi garrison in the province with the temple, and perhaps an extra ashi and/or spy in neighboring provinces that are known to be rebellious (those surrounding Kaga, Kii etc.). Best of both worlds.

[gollum]

The most chances of rebellion usually take place as population switches from one faith to the other. However, even when rebellions do happen, they are not as big as they could have been.

So, yes its quite a viable option actually to get away with both, although it would have been much better to be still viable but more unstable in practice.

[Pikenier]

When exactly does a faction convert to Christianity? As soon as you accept the Portuguese offer in the Throneroom or when you build your first church?

The reason I´m asking is that in my current Shimazu campaign (my first STW campaign :)) the Mori have also converted to Christianity. But only after they conquered one of my provinces with church existing. And the Portuguese ship is sailing on the south coast the whole time where no Mori port exists afaik. So have they converted because they accept a portuguese offer or accidently because conquering one of my christian provinces?

[gollum]

This is tricky but bear with me. Your Daimyo accepts Christianity as his own religion once he builds or owns a Church. In that case the clan is given the Christian sign in the info menu and your provinces will start to gradually convert and opposition is met until the surpass the 50% limit.

However even if you don't build any Church and don't turn Christian yourself, the Portuguese will start spread Christianity once you accept a trade deal with them. This however mean that although Christianity can cause unrest the Daimyo and the majority of the (buddhist) subjects are not in opposition and the effect is far smaller.

In order for a Christian to turn Buddhist again all is needed is to build a Buddhist temple. Once this is done Christian status is lost again. However if now the majority of the population is Christian expect unrest anew.

By the way the only way for a Buddhist daimyo to boost Buddhism is via the temples, which are expensive. The Christian Daimyo on the other hand apart from Churches and the Cathedral can use the cheap and handy Jesuit priests that turn japan Christian in no time.

[ReluctantSamurai]

Your Daimyo accepts Christianity as his own religion once he builds or owns a Church.

Or builds a trading post. You can accept the offer anytime, but as long as you don't build either a church or a trading post, you won't begin the conversion process. You can defer as long as you like.......

[gollum]

Not exaclty sure about this, but its probably because the original that i usually play has slightly diferent behaviour in regards to this from MI/WE. You are most likely right.

[caravel]

By the way the only way for a Buddhist daimyo to boost Buddhism is via the temples, which are expensive. The Christian Daimyo on the other hand apart from Churches and the Cathedral can use the cheap and handy Jesuit priests that turn japan Christian in no time.

A minor correction; buddhist emissaries also propogate buddhism - at least they do in STW MI/WE v1.02b.

Yohei

[gollum]

They do? That's great news. Thanks Yohei. I always thought they should have.