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    You spelled bigot wrong.

    As for the Romans, coming over here, taking our women and jobs. Bastards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    As for the Romans, coming over here, taking our women and jobs. Bastards.
    Indeed, what on earth did they ever do for us... cue Python.

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    Luigi is becoming naughty, I like. Mass immigration was really political integration, when Aistuf sacked Rome he was only trying to enforce previous demands for passage, or settlement, not sure which nobody is, he had been there for a while being chased by the huns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alh_p View Post
    Indeed, what on earth did they ever do for us... cue Python.
    A lot of people actually had a pretty long list of grievances they could recite in response to that, on account of Roman colonial management long having the tendency to be a wee bit exploitative... which is an understatement on the order of describing the Sahara as "somewhat lacking in refreshements".
    Let's just say there's some good reasons why Mithridates the Great had no real difficulties persuading most of Asia Minor to do their part in the Asian Vespers...

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    More then one in it

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    It was overextended, because it stopped growing.
    As long as it was actively subjegating other kingdoms and cities, there was a regular influx of loot and slaves. That stopped once they abandoned their efforts to conquer Germania (wich wouldn't have been a cash cow, anyway)
    Plus with the east-west divide, the majority of truly "rich" regions became Constantinople's realm.

    Plus, the rapid growth of the Germanian populations wich caused their migrations.

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    In the west, the idea of a universal Empire lived on until Napoleon disbanded the Holy Roman Empire in 1806.
    Technically, Franz Joseph disbanded it himself. Napoleon did push him to do it, most probably because he wanted to be Europe's "new" emperor and thus needed to get rid of that old relic.

    As for universality, it was called the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation. As an institution it was even less relevant than the western Roman empire in 475.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    Technically, Franz Joseph disbanded it himself. Napoleon did push him to do it, most probably because he wanted to be Europe's "new" emperor and thus needed to get rid of that old relic.

    As for universality, it was called the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation. As an institution it was even less relevant than the western Roman empire in 475.
    Technically, I myself handed over my wallet to that guy with a knife.

    'German Nation' was added after the Middle Ages, when the idea of universality of the Empire had been abandoned.
    The idea that one still lived in the age of, or even directly in, the Roman Empire, was strong in the Middle Ages. Not until the Renaissance did the idea fully develop that one was living in a new era, after Rome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Technically, I myself handed over my wallet to that guy with a knife.
    Even more technically, there have been many scholars who have argued that Franz Joseph was not legally competent to disband the HRE, so it has never been formally dissolved

    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    'German Nation' was added after the Middle Ages, when the idea of universality of the Empire had been abandoned.
    Wich was a considerable time before Napoleon did not disband the HRE, thanks for proving yourself wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    That and the huns on their tails, Aistuff didn't want to conquer Rome he wanted passage/settlement and wanted to make a point. By the time Rome was sacked the senate already consisted for a huge part out of barbarians.
    Barbarians in the the senate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
    Plus, the rapid growth of the Germanian populations wich caused their migrations.
    That and the huns on their tails, Aistuff didn't want to conquer Rome he wanted passage/settlement and wanted to make a point. By the time Rome was sacked the senate already consisted for a huge part out of barbarians.

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