Netherworld II [Concluded]

[ULC]

If one more person tries to make a connection between the kill selection and who is guilty with a straight face in the first round, so help me, I'll murder you myself.

GeneralHankerchief did, it's quite obvious. At the very least, he had a hand in it. Only he would post the above then proceed to tell everyone in such a manner to buzz off from that line of thinking.

[Diamondeye]

Uh... Two questions: Do we know for sure that all the three dead people from the first round were innocent? I don't see any spoiler in the writeup.

And would someone mind doing a tally? I feel like I am the one closest to dying but I really can't tell.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Indeed. No one likes a good WIFOM contest more than GeneralHankerchief. He's also the type to joke that he can kill you when he really can.

unvote, vote: GeneralHankerchief

That, more than the kill selections, seals it for me.

[Yaropolk]

I'm also of the mind that the kills were done with knowledge and were meant to pursuade the crowd to attack a neophyte. Plus we haven't had a first round ATPG lynch in about three months.

Vote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sure, it didn't JUST HAPPEN in the Blackadder game.

*smacks Yaropolk*

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote:white_eyes

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote:white_eyes

A bit overkill, don'tcha think?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

A bit overkill, don'tcha think?

I checked over the posts, but no one else has voted him. Anyway, bit of a fuss you are making over a random vote?

[GeneralHankerchief]

No one else voted him for a reason.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

No one else voted him for a reason.

No one else voted him period, reasoned vote or otherwise.

[ULC]

No one else voted him for a reason.

Speaking of votes - Unvote:Seon, Vote:GeneralHankerchief

Your trying to avoid me, Mr.Kerchief, and my reasoning - why?

[GeneralHankerchief]

No one else voted him period, reasoned vote or otherwise.

Ayup. And there's an easy explanation for why that's so.

-edit- YLC, I'm avoiding you because I feel like it at the moment.

[TinCow]

Looks like 3 Lurkers were killed, if that was meant to be last nights pattern, but usually AVSM, Khazaar and White_Eyes:D are not first-round killed...

A newish player perhaps?

I think it's an experienced player.

Vote: GH

Also, based on the description I think AVSM's killer was Yama.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Most people are not "usually killed first round" and most mafia teams have an experienced player on them.

[Joooray]

No one else voted him period, reasoned vote or otherwise.

What GH is trying to tell you about White_Eyes: HE - IS - DEAD!!

I get the feeling you trying just a bit to hard to seem like you don't know what is going on.

[ULC]

YLC, I'm avoiding you because I feel like it at the moment.

But, why? Do you not love me? Why must you ignore me GH? Have I just become inconvenient for you now? A normal person at this point would simply counter me - if he actually had an excuse. Which you don't.

[scottishranger]

What GH is trying to tell you about White_Eyes: HE - IS - DEAD!!

I get the feeling you trying just a bit to hard to seem like you don't know what is going on.

Vote Jooray

Who are you to tell Sasaki who he can or can't vote for

[GeneralHankerchief]

But, why? Do you not love me? Why must you ignore me GH? Have I just become inconvenient for you now? A normal person at this point would simply counter me - if he actually had an excuse. Which you don't.

Oh, I have a counter, I just don't feel like using it. Why waste it, after all? Your original accusation on me was WIFOM by nature and therefore ultimately meaningless. After all, I could simply say that your read of me is incorrect and that, were I a mafioso, would have acted differently in such a situation.

[TinCow]

My vote on GH was made before I saw the rest of this conversation; I got the end of page 1 and didn't realize there were more posts. So, I hadn't seen 81+ at the time of my vote. Having now read them, I do not want to participate in a bandwagon on GH.

Unvote: GH; Vote: YLC

For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

[Joooray]

Vote Jooray

Who are you to tell Sasaki who he can or can't vote for

Oh no you did-n't! Who are YOU to tell me who I can smart alec with and who not.

... - Sigurd

[Winston Hughes]

Looks like 3 Lurkers were killed, if that was meant to be last nights pattern, but usually AVSM, Khazaar and White_Eyes:D are not first-round killed...

A newish player perhaps?

Is this an attempt to distract attention from the real killer, or just appallingly bad reasoning?

One way to find out... vote: Beskar

[Yaropolk]

Sure, it didn't JUST HAPPEN in the Blackadder game.

*smacks Yaropolk*

Meh wasn't part of that one, I still think it's a good idea to lynch you just in case.

[Peasant Phill]

For no apparent reason:

Vote: Double A

Now leave me alone until the next vote.

[ULC]

Oh, I have a counter, I just don't feel like using it. Why waste it, after all? Your original accusation on me was WIFOM by nature and therefore ultimately meaningless. After all, I could simply say that your read of me is incorrect and that, were I a mafioso, would have acted differently in such a situation.

What a lovely little roasted marshmellow you have written, all fluff and no filling. Play the pufferfish more with empty sounding defense? If my accusations are baseless, why defend against them - I am the only one accusing you, yet for some reason you are forced to respond? Why reason with the unreasonable, when you know it gets you caught in circles? Why so defensive?

My vote on GH was made before I saw the rest of this conversation; I got the end of page 1 and didn't realize there were more posts. So, I hadn't seen 81+ at the time of my vote. Having now read them, I do not want to participate in a bandwagon on GH.

Unvote: GH; Vote: YLC

For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

You voted GH why in the first place? And I didn't call for a bandwagon on GH at all.

And that is total WIFOM, and you know it. I could vote for the dead too if you want - I suppose that must mean I did not read the night write-up.

[Askthepizzaguy]

For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

*waves his hand dismissively*

BAH, he is acting like he doesn't know what's going on. And, for no reason other than because he is Sasaki, and he can. It's how he has fun, in my opinion. At worst, he was doing it so that someone could use the very reasoning you just used to "clear" him, which is kind of lame as Sasaki strategies go. He's better than that.... I hope.

[Sigurd]

vote: Scienter as a friendly welcome vote.

[Kralizec]

My vote on GH was made before I saw the rest of this conversation; I got the end of page 1 and didn't realize there were more posts. So, I hadn't seen 81+ at the time of my vote. Having now read them, I do not want to participate in a bandwagon on GH.


For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

(bolded vote removed to prevent miscounts)

Why would you point out something that obvious in Sasaki's defense?

But on that topic, it's slightly odd that Sasaki paid attention to the posts after the night write-up, and not to the night write-up itself. Of course, it goes without saying that if he's not mafia and hasn't read the write-up he wouldn't have known that white_eyes was dead *looks suspiciously*

[ULC]

Why would you point out something that obvious in Sasaki's defense?

But on that topic, it's slightly odd that Sasaki paid attention to the posts after the night write-up, and not to the night write-up itself. Of course, it goes without saying that if he's not mafia and hasn't read the write-up he wouldn't have known that white_eyes was dead *looks suspiciously*

Thus - Sasaki read the night write up and is screwing around, TC is defending him needlessly, GH is panicking and trying to defend himself when he should he does not need to.

Kind of adds up - I'd be the type to hunt down the veterans at this point. Immunity to death usually allows them to be much more productive instead of trying to form secret alliances.

[TinCow]

You voted GH why in the first place? And I didn't call for a bandwagon on GH at all.

As I stated, I think those targets were picked by an experienced player, not a new player. GH was just the first person that came to mind.

And that is total WIFOM, and you know it. I could vote for the dead too if you want - I suppose that must mean I did not read the night write-up.

WIFOM on Day 1? OH NOES!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

My bad. I totally missed that white eyes was one of the two kills. I should read more carefully. Not that my mistake means I'm innocent at all, of course.