Netherworld II [Concluded]

[TinCow]

I don't have to prove anything TC - the burden of proof is on you since you said that you were protown, it is you who has to prove that you are protown, not have the town prove you are.

Nope, the burden is on you. As others have noted, I've made myself pretty much the highest priority target for investigations. If I'm scum, those results will come out soon enough.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nope, the burden is on you. As others have noted, I've made myself pretty much the highest priority target for investigations. If I'm scum, those results will come out soon enough.

I would argue that the votes from the previous round "made you the highest priority target" for investigations. You claimed because you were going to die, so let's not pretend you took a big risk here. The risk was, claim or die.

TinCow 6(Seon, Thermal Mercury, Chaotix, Cultured Drizzt fan, pever, A1_Unit)
GH 5(ATPG, YLC, Diamondeye, Winston Hughes, Scienter)
Beskar 2(GH, Sasaki)
Seon 2(Captain C, Yaro)
...etc

[TinCow]

I would argue that the votes from the previous round "made you the highest priority target" for investigations. You claimed because you were going to die, so let's not pretend you took a big risk here. The risk was, claim or die.

You completely missed the point. Yes, that move was designed to save my butt, whey else would I have claimed pro-town on day 1? The point is that it's pretty obvious that the investigators are going to be looking at me soon enough, and probably already did last night. Why exactly are you and YLC so eager to lynch me, when those results are likely to come out soon enough and you risk killing a power town role if you're wrong? Seems to me like a mafioso attempt to off an opponent.

[woad&fangs]

I agree with YLC and the others on this. vote: Tincow

[Askthepizzaguy]

You completely missed the point. Yes, that move was designed to save my butt, whey else would I have claimed pro-town on day 1? The point is that it's pretty obvious that the investigators are going to be looking at me soon enough, and probably already did last night. Why exactly are you and YLC so eager to lynch me, when those results are likely to come out soon enough and you risk killing a power town role if you're wrong? Seems to me like a mafioso attempt to off an opponent.

I call huge amounts of bovine feces on this line.

If I were mafia, I could just kill you myself; No need to stick my neck out here and lynch you, because a guy who tries his best to get a supposed "pro-town role" lynched right off the bat will die shortly thereafter, if not before. I am not ensuring my survival as a scumbag in doing so, and it would be soooo much easier to just kill you. Especially given how many kills there are.

A mafioso attempt to off an opponent wouldn't involve a lynch at this stage. They would allow the town to lynch whoever, as long as it wasn't one of them. Again, you're a better player than that... and when I match that up with your bizarre defense of Sasaki in round one, I have to ask you, what the heck is going on? You're completely off your rocker.

[TinCow]

You're completely off your rocker.

I'd say the same thing about anyone trying to lynch someone who claimed pro-town on Day 1 without even waiting for an investigation result.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I also would like to point out that Yaseikhaan rarely includes detective roles in his games. There will probably never be an investigator. So we could be waiting for several rounds... "well, no one has come forward to accuse TinCow... he must be innocent" and forget all about you. No thanks; I am not letting you off that easy. I won't file you under "innocent" and forget about you.

You claimed to have a pro-town role under pressure, and that is worthy of scrutiny, especially since there are less obvious ways of getting votes off of yourself. I highly doubt that was your best option in that situation.

It is decision time. TinCow either lives or dies this round. I'll even offer myself up as a second option. Either TinCow is full of it, or I'll take the fall for him.

[Thermal]

Sticking to tradition vote:tincow

[Andres]

TinCow, since you already claimed to have a pro-town role and have thus exposed yourself, mind to share the specifics?

[GeneralHankerchief]

It is decision time. TinCow either lives or dies this round.

Oh I'm going to have fun with this one in the future.

As for me, my vote stays on AVSM until TinCow next responds.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Well.... Tincow may be telling the truth, so for now I am willing to leave him alone personally.

Vote: Yaropolk

[Winston Hughes]

vote: johnhughthom

For casting the first vote against me yesterday - without giving any reason - and then going totally quiet.

[Thermal]

vote: johnhughthom

For casting the first vote against me yesterday - without giving any reason - and then going totally quiet.

This is an odd request and you are welcome to ignore me but could you change your avatar? I get the vibe your a good player but I can never take anyone seriously with that Weird Default Barbarian at each post.

[Winston Hughes]

This is an odd request and you are welcome to ignore me but could you change your avatar? I get the vibe your a good player but I can never take anyone seriously with that Weird Default Barbarian at each post.

Believe it or not, I was actually the model for WDB. I like how they've rendered my hair.

[Yaropolk]

Nice Woad

[Thermal]

Believe it or not, I was actually the model for WDB. I like how they've rendered my hair.

WDB being?

[Askthepizzaguy]

WDB being?

Wierd default barbarian.

[Thermal]

Wierd default barbarian.

LMAO, my own words abbreviated against me...

Well keep your WDB then, see if I care. sulks*

[Beskar]

Double decker buses are not conventional in Arizona

Hence why there wouldn't be a top deck.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hence why there wouldn't be a top deck.

Quoted to forever preserve Beskar's mistake of posting in the wrong thread.

[Diamondeye]

Alright then. ATPG's case against vote:TinCow makes sense, and if I have to pick between him and a random lynch, it'll be him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why do I constantly put myself into situations where either the mafia are laughing really hard at me, or I'll be the one who gets the last laugh? I could just lurk and vote randomly, it would be a lot safer and I wouldn't look as stupid.

Psychologist, please. I need drugs of some kind.

[Peasant Phill]

Vote tinCow

Claiming to be pro-town pretty much sealed your death. Why would the mafia even risk letting a strong pro town force live.

This is a no brainer. (and if we're wrong than you have noone else to blame but your own tactics.)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

While TinCow's defense is faulty (a mafia role could easily be investigation immune) I don't see the need to lynch him.

[Diamondeye]

Why do I constantly put myself into situations where either the mafia are laughing really hard at me, or I'll be the one who gets the last laugh? I could just lurk and vote randomly, it would be a lot safer and I wouldn't look as stupid.

Psychologist, please. I need drugs of some kind.

How about some of these?


Seriously, though, I appreciate that kind of gamestyle (as you might see from the NOTW XXX on CFC), but I worry if it steals too much of your Darkness Falls-GM time

I need an update soon

[TinCow]

I also would like to point out that Yaseikhaan rarely includes detective roles in his games. There will probably never be an investigator.

Convenient of you to ignore the fact that in Netherworld I there were TWO investigators.

TinCow, since you already claimed to have a pro-town role and have thus exposed yourself, mind to share the specifics?

What role could I possibly claim that would be believed by you? Seriously. After this many games with me, you actually think me posting a role reveal will convince you one way or another?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Convenient of you to ignore the fact that in Netherworld I there were TWO investigators.

I wasn't in Netherworld I, and I've been in... almost all of his games since then?

Just mentioning, he's on a no-detective streak. And the last person to claim a role (detective) in one of his games (Beskar) was a guilty scum.

[Kralizec]

Vote: ATPG
To lazy/tired to read everything again right now- but you went from being rather defensive while defending TinCow to one of his greates accusers. What's that all about?

[pevergreen]

GH didn't put x role in his games until x game where it was a big change.

Don't expect the host to stay the same...

[Askthepizzaguy]

@ Kralizec:

It's all about the Benjamins.

I felt he deserved 1 round of the benefit of the doubt. But I think we should decide collectively if we are to wait several rounds for a detective result that may never come.