anyone willing to sell me his copy of E:TW?

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The Stranger 13:06 12-25-2009

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im getting a new pc and im looking to buy some second hand games. anyone here wants to sell ETW, Anno 1404 or a game like that, you can pm me

pevergreen 13:38 12-25-2009

You've played my E:TW, want that?

Apart from the fact I don't think you can transfer games between steam accounts once already installed?

Hooahguy 17:30 12-25-2009

i wish i could sell you mine. i just erased ETW, freeing up like 18 gigs off my hard drive, enough for Crysis and R6V2.

Beskar 21:55 12-25-2009

If you are selling it to thestranger, you would also be selling him your Steam account (since they can't be removed)

Your best bet is find some one who's only game is ETW on Steam.

Hax 22:15 12-25-2009

Originally Posted by :
Your best bet is find some one who's only game is ETW on Steam.

I couldn't care one heck about Steam.

You can have my copy. Live in the Netherlands? That will only make things easier.

The Stranger 01:42 12-26-2009

so hax, how will it work than? if ill buy your copy ill also get your steam account? if im garantueed that it works ill buy the game from you :) youre also dutch so i think thats the easiest.

im from Rotterdam, driebergen isnt that far from Rotterdam right? i could pick it up if you want, or ill just pay for you to mail it to me :)

pm me about it oke :)

pevergreen 05:19 12-26-2009

Originally Posted by The Stranger:
so hax, how will it work than? if ill buy your copy ill also get your steam account? if im garantueed that it works ill buy the game from you :) youre also dutch so i think thats the easiest.

im from Rotterdam, driebergen isnt that far from Rotterdam right? i could pick it up if you want, or ill just pay for you to mail it to me :)

pm me about it oke :)

Inb4mods

stop discussion of it, its against the EULA, if steam find out they will ban the account.

Lemur 05:27 12-26-2009

Well, hang on, speaking as a mod, is there no legitimate, legal way to resell a game that activates on Steam? There must be some sort of workaround that isn't shady. Let's Google this and see ...

Oh. Ouch. Yowza. Looks like the only thing you could do is transfer the entirety of your Steam account, and that would be non-trivial, as the engineers say.

Games bought through Steam cannot be resold. The Steam Subscriber Agreement denies users the right to "sell, charge others for the right to use or otherwise transfer [an] account"; Valve disables any accounts that they believe to have been sold or transferred. Furthermore, retail purchases which have already been tied to a Steam account will not be transferred to another if the receipt presented to Valve as proof of purchase is from an "online auction website or used software vendor". This prevents players from swapping, re-selling or borrowing Steam titles.

The Stranger 13:41 12-26-2009

wtf is wrong with those people? seriously. so its actually impossible to buy any 2ndhand E:TW game. Do you always have to log in on steam to play? or can you play it without steam? is steam only required for online play?

i think this is seriously ******* up i mean i wouldnt even be able to borrow the game from a friend now would i?

I've looked around on google n stuff and reread the post above...

so basically once youve bought the game and installed it, no one else can play it?

this is tyranny...

Husar 21:49 12-26-2009

Originally Posted by The Stranger:
this is tyranny...

Yeah, it really is, but it's not just happening on Steam, lately I ate chocolate and then I couldn't borrow it to my friends anymore.

Subotan 21:55 12-26-2009

Originally Posted by Lemur:
Games bought through Steam cannot be resold. The Steam Subscriber Agreement denies users the right to "sell, charge others for the right to use or otherwise transfer [an] account"; Valve disables any accounts that they believe to have been sold or transferred. Furthermore, retail purchases which have already been tied to a Steam account will not be transferred to another if the receipt presented to Valve as proof of purchase is from an "online auction website or used software vendor". This prevents players from swapping, re-selling or borrowing Steam titles.

Pfff, what are they gonna do? Send Gordon Freeman around to break my legs?

The Stranger 22:11 12-26-2009

Originally Posted by Husar:
Yeah, it really is, but it's not just happening on Steam, lately I ate chocolate and then I couldn't borrow it to my friends anymore.

you are a bastard...

on a more serious note... its not a good comparison. there is no shop telling you that once you've bought and opened the bar of chocolate, ate a piece and got full, you cant give it to your friend anymore... im sure if there was a shop who did that and could enforce it, no one would buy food there.

The Stranger 22:13 12-26-2009

Originally Posted by Subotan:
Pfff, what are they gonna do? Send Gordon Freeman around to break my legs?

no worse... they kill your ability to play the game.

Subotan 22:23 12-26-2009

Originally Posted by Husar:
Yeah, it really is, but it's not just happening on Steam, lately I ate chocolate and then I couldn't borrow it to my friends anymore.

Terrible comparison, since the usage of chocolate prevents anyone else ever using it again, unlike games.

Originally Posted by The Stranger:
no worse... they kill your ability to play the game.

And just how would they find out?

Although if my legs were going to be broken by someone, it would have to be Gordon Freeman.

drone 22:42 12-26-2009

Now you know why I don't buy games that require Steam. You aren't really "buying" them in the strict sense of the word, you are only renting them until Valve decides you can't play them anymore.

edyzmedieval 23:08 12-26-2009

Originally Posted by drone:
Now you know why I don't buy games that require Steam. You aren't really "buying" them in the strict sense of the word, you are only renting them until Valve decides you can't play them anymore.

Well it depends. Most of the digital copies, you're right, you're renting them, but the physical copies are still yours to own, apart from the activation code which I am sure can be broken or replaced in case Steam blocks your original one for whatever reason.

Technically there should be no reason to block your Steam activation code. But you never know these days.

The Stranger 23:29 12-26-2009

Originally Posted by Subotan:
Terrible comparison, since the usage of chocolate prevents anyone else ever using it again, unlike games.

And just how would they find out?

Although if my legs were going to be broken by someone, it would have to be Gordon Freeman.

because you have register online to play the game...

Subotan 00:26 12-27-2009

...And? If you sell your Steam account as a whole, there's nothing they can do.

pevergreen 03:25 12-27-2009

Originally Posted by Subotan:
...And? If you sell your Steam account as a whole, there's nothing they can do.

Yes they can, its against their EULA, no?

Ban the account.

The Stranger 13:10 12-27-2009

but how will they find out so easily? because you can use your steam account everywhere... you just say you have moved or whatever. they wont know. unless they installed some kind of spyware in your pc... which is against the law.

Lemur 15:23 12-27-2009

We've done well so far, but let's be crystal clear—advocating piracy or discussing the means and methods of breaking a company's DRM is strecht verboten. Please don't force us mods to close the thread.

Subotan 15:32 12-27-2009

We're not. Well, I'm not at least.

Husar 16:37 12-27-2009

Originally Posted by Subotan:
Terrible comparison, since the usage of chocolate prevents anyone else ever using it again, unlike games.

I thought we were just talking about how the usage of games on Steam prevents anyone else from ever using them again?!

Or you can just do what drone does and not buy Steam games if you don't like their system, it's not like anyone was forcing you to buy Steam games or like you had a right to own them exactly the way you want. Don't like the system, buy something else.

Subotan 19:23 12-27-2009

Originally Posted by Husar:
I thought we were just talking about how the usage of games on Steam prevents anyone else from ever using them again?!

I thought you were justifying what they're doing.

Originally Posted by Husar:
Or you can just do what drone does and not buy Steam games if you don't like their system, it's not like anyone was forcing you to buy Steam games or like you had a right to own them exactly the way you want. Don't like the system, buy something else.

Or I could just ignore what Valve says, buy them boxed and do whatever I like with them.

Husar 21:19 12-27-2009

Originally Posted by Subotan:
I thought you were justifying what they're doing.

I didn't even know there was anything wrong with what they're doing to begin with. You may not like it but that doesn't mean it's wrong in a moral sense.

Originally Posted by Subotan:
Or I could just ignore what Valve says, buy them boxed and do whatever I like with them.

Good luck trying that with ETW...

edyzmedieval 02:05 12-28-2009

Technically, if you sell it to someone, 90% chance they won't notice.
Unless you sell it on eBay that is...

On the other hand, I'd never sell mine. I have so much good stuff on it, plus my ETW copy and dozens of good friends...NEVER!

Beskar 02:49 12-28-2009

I love the Steam system, especially how I don't have to use disks, get easy repairs, know that I got the most up-to-date version and tons of other things.

The Stranger 05:55 12-28-2009

i just wont buy the game... NTW is coming out soon so.

lars573 00:43 12-29-2009

Which will also use steam.......

Lemur 06:28 12-29-2009

Well, looks like the thread's title question has been answered and then some. Thanks to all who contributed.

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