Lorica Segmentata

[Iasonis]

The Tropaeum Traiani, look up pics of this monument, it commemorates Emperor Trajan's victory over the Dacians. The more famous Trajans column depicts Legionaries marching in LS....but it was erected by people who were far from the actual battle. This monument here was much closer and depicts the legionnaires in chainmail, its a more realistic depiction.
LS was around at this time but was not popular at all and no one really knows to what capacity it was used for. In "MY" opinion from what ive studied at this time period since it was depicted but probably not actually used by regular soldiers it was most likely "ceremonial".
It could also be something of a status thing like wearing the color purple (after they stole it from the (carthaginians), I would also feel it was probably reserved for ranking members to show distinction such as the Aquilifer, the Principales rank and above, but again no solid proof so no one knows, yet.

[ludwag]

nice and friendly first post :) Everyone asks for LS armour but they dont make it becouse it is not historical accurate. heres the post I made when I was new here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ghlight=ludwag :P

[Macilrille]

Should we not just let dead dogs lie instead of digging them up and beating them around? I am not trying to change the tone of the thread, but the Team has clearly stated that LS will

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not

be in EBII, so why keep on?

If you want LS, make an LS minimod for EBII when it comes.

Now... good night.

[paramedicguyer]

I really see no harm in these threads, if anything they spur conversation. I personally like the look of LS (how can you not), but most people simply don't understand that: first, LS was at the earliest used too close to the end of the game period to really deserve a historical reservation in the game; second, it is still unclear exactly to what extent LS was used; and third, in all practicality LS was an inferior armor to chain, LS exposed the waist, thighs and groin, most of its weight was centered on the shoulders and in general it was less flexible than chain.



Personally from a practical standpoint I am much happier seeing my legions wearing chain than LS. But don't get me wrong, if a LS minimod is made I would def give it a try

[Owen Glyndwr]

I really see no harm in these threads, if anything they spur conversation. I personally like the look of LS (how can you not), but most people simply don't understand that: first, LS was at the earliest used too close to the end of the game period to really deserve a historical reservation in the game; second, it is still unclear exactly to what extent LS was used; and third, in all practicality LS was an inferior armor to chain, LS exposed the waist, thighs and groin, most of its weight was centered on the shoulders and in general it was less flexible than chain.



Personally from a practical standpoint I am much happier seeing my legions wearing chain than LS. But don't get me wrong, if a LS minimod is made I would def give it a try

I think these threads can be particularly useful in giving newcomers to the EB threads a real idea of what EB is all about. I think it lets them realize that they need to support claims with evidence, and things aren't done here merely because they "look cool". It also gives the less historically educated newcomers a quick lesson on the difference between Hollywood's portrayal of the Roman army, and what archaeological evidence suggests the Roman army actually looked like (most likely).

[geala]

1. I respect the teams decision not to include segmented armor. It came late and may not be worth the big effort (I mean the programming, in reality I think it was superior to mail).

2. However, I have the feeling that the FAQ is a bit overly conservative. We know that segmented armor was used most likely in 9 AD, surely in 14 AD, because of the findings in Germany (Kalkriese for example). We know that regular legions used both forms of armor, because there are findings of pieces of lorica hamata together with pieces of segmented armor on the same battlefield.

Perhaps the advent of segmented armor is coupled with the big military reform of Augustus in the centuries BC. Thats pure speculation however.

Over the time of its use till the 4th c. there are no less findings for segmented armor than for lorica hamata as far as I know. I don't know how someone can insist that it was used only on a minor scale.

[Gustave]

[Ibrahim]

so why keep on?

for the same reason this animal won't stop. its human nature to try to project one's ideas onto a project-even if the ideas are terrible/already discarded.

either that, or they uncovered more evidence on the subject of LS.