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    what say the Hayasdan soldiers if you click on there picture ?

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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    AFAIK, they still didn't have their unit name voice yet... and if they are ordered, they use eastern unit responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andranik View Post
    what say the Hayasdan soldiers if you click on there picture ?
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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    i have play and than i was hear that they say : alahu akbar

    or something that sounded so

    and i wantet to ask if you heard that too

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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    No, though I think they say something that sounds kinda close(sounding).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andranik View Post
    i have play and than i was hear that they say : alahu akbar

    or something that sounded so
    Allah Akbar?

    If they say that, something is seriously wrong. That is a Muslim battlecry (it means "God is great").
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    @antisocialmunky

    indeed may be the only similar sounds (sry if this is not gramatic correct i make this bie translate.google.de)

    @ludens

    jes your right i know that that is a muslim cry



    that is the reason why I opened this topic

    To see if others heard that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    Allah Akbar?

    If they say that, something is seriously wrong. That is a Muslim battlecry (it means "God is great").
    Do you know what the sound recording is saying? I think its played when a move order is given.
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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    I couldn't find any that sounded like what was described, the closest one is a move order that sounds more like "Alahwan Faroz"


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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    "Allah-u-Akbar" would make no sense. There are no muslims in 272 BC, nor do Armenians speak Arabic.
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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    i know that armenians not speak arabic and that are no muslims in 272 b.c.

    but i play and hear something that sounded like "allahu akbar"

    But maybe I'm just Interrogated myself

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    but i play and hear something that sounded like "allahu akbar"

    But maybe I'm just Interrogated myself
    The very thought of the Hay people actually speaking Arabic and worshipping a God whose position wasn't fully established until 800 years later is a bit..far-fetched.
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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    i have never say that the armenians speak arabic and believe in a god named allah

    i have only say that i have heart something that was smilar with "alllahu akbar"

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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    No offense, but it doesn't really warrant a thread if you yourself don't believe they said "Allah-u-Akbar".
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    ...lol

    just enter the campaign and check again?
    i don't know, but if he says something that sounds allahuh akbar(or something similar)

    -doesn't mean they are actually saying literally like they were reading or something-

    the pronounce could sound like that though, but it wouldn't mean they are actually speaking arabic or worshiping Allah.
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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    No offense, but it doesn't really warrant a thread if you yourself don't believe they said "Allah-u-Akbar".
    He was only wondering what it was they were saying, he only said it sounded similar and was not implying thats what was being said.

    As for the OP I couldn't find anything remotely sounding like "allah u akbar" apart from the "Alahwan Faroz" I mentioned earlier, perhaps you could give us more detail? is it a particular unit that says it or do all units say it? is it linked to giving and order such as attacking or movement?


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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    Do you know what the sound recording is saying? I think its played when a move order is given.
    No, but... why ask me? I am not a team member, and the Eastern factions are hardly my speciality.
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    Foot would probably know, he's the Hay-guy.
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    Default Re: a question about Hayasdan soldiers

    when i move the soldiers thay say sometime but not always something that similar with "allahu akbar"

    but maybe bobbin is right and they say not allahu akbar they say probably Alahwan Faroz


    @ hax

    "Foot would probably know, he's the Hay-guy. "

    who is foot ?

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    Just about the Supreme Leader of all that is EB.

    EDIT: Well, actually..that's not exactly true. You had khelvan who is no longer active, and Steppe Merc and then there's Aymar, who is still around, I think. Teleklos Archelaou and Krusader seem to manage the team now, but I don't know whether they are specialised in eastern history. It'd be best to either ask Foot or The Persian Cataphract.
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    Holy LOLZ?!? If you are real, then your EB files must be mixed with Broken Crescent memory

    AFAIK Armenians today are Christians , just ask Vartan.

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    AFAIK Armenians today are Christians , just ask Vartan.
    I think Armenians are predominantly Christians, with some Muslims around. Christianity in Armenia is probably even older than the Roman Catholic Church.
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    Well, back on topic, I suspect you hear is the run shouting command... "Sembaon, Woroo Wuoroo!" that on some occasion can be mistook as "Sembaon, Aloooo Wooakboo" that war similar with "Allahu Akbar" yell

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    From an Old EB Voicemod preview:

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    i have never said that armenians are msulims !!!!!!!!

    i know that armenias are christians - the first nation that was christian are the armenians !!!!



    "Well, back on topic, I suspect you hear is the run shouting command... "Sembaon, Woroo Wuoroo!" that on some occasion can be mistook as "Sembaon, Aloooo Wooakboo" that war similar with "Allahu Akbar" yell"


    hm .. your probably right

    i will play again and make my volume more and than i probably hear it right ^^

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    Alternatively you could go to "Rome - Total War\EB\Data\Sounds\Pahlava" in your game folder and find the sound file (they all play in windows media player), the "Alahwan Faroz" one I was talking about is named "Pahlava_General_1_Unit_Move_5"


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    Persians were very fond of their goddess Gwyneth Paltrow. This is reflected by the fact eastern skirmisher unit calls her name everytime you click....

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    Please no Muslim - Bashing again....
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    Please no Muslim - Bashing again....
    Aaahh to a muslim begging please isn't complete without a threat in the end huh?



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    I don't think anyone is bashing muslim. OP just misheard.
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    Hey, did you want some threat? no, I won't start a flame war here (I was formerly a muslim, so I know them), but please show respect, as if this thread is spilled outside, you can made a public outcry here...
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