a question about Hayasdan soldiers

[Andranik]

what say the Hayasdan soldiers if you click on there picture ?

[Rahwana]

AFAIK, they still didn't have their unit name voice yet... and if they are ordered, they use eastern unit responses.

[Watchman]

what say the Hayasdan soldiers if you click on there picture ?

[Andranik]

i have play and than i was hear that they say : alahu akbar

or something that sounded so

and i wantet to ask if you heard that too

[antisocialmunky]

No, though I think they say something that sounds kinda close(sounding).

[Ludens]

i have play and than i was hear that they say : alahu akbar

or something that sounded so

Allah Akbar?

If they say that, something is seriously wrong. That is a Muslim battlecry (it means "God is great").

[Andranik]

@antisocialmunky

indeed may be the only similar sounds (sry if this is not gramatic correct i make this bie translate.google.de)

@ludens

jes your right i know that that is a muslim cry



that is the reason why I opened this topic

To see if others heard that too

[antisocialmunky]

Allah Akbar?

If they say that, something is seriously wrong. That is a Muslim battlecry (it means "God is great").

Do you know what the sound recording is saying? I think its played when a move order is given.

[bobbin]

I couldn't find any that sounded like what was described, the closest one is a move order that sounds more like "Alahwan Faroz"

[A Very Super Market]

"Allah-u-Akbar" would make no sense. There are no muslims in 272 BC, nor do Armenians speak Arabic.

[Andranik]

i know that armenians not speak arabic and that are no muslims in 272 b.c.

but i play and hear something that sounded like "allahu akbar"

But maybe I'm just Interrogated myself

[Hax]

but i play and hear something that sounded like "allahu akbar"

But maybe I'm just Interrogated myself

The very thought of the Hay people actually speaking Arabic and worshipping a God whose position wasn't fully established until 800 years later is a bit..far-fetched.

[Andranik]

i have never say that the armenians speak arabic and believe in a god named allah

i have only say that i have heart something that was smilar with "alllahu akbar"

[A Very Super Market]

No offense, but it doesn't really warrant a thread if you yourself don't believe they said "Allah-u-Akbar".

[Havok.]

...lol

just enter the campaign and check again?
i don't know, but if he says something that sounds allahuh akbar(or something similar)

-doesn't mean they are actually saying literally like they were reading or something-

the pronounce could sound like that though, but it wouldn't mean they are actually speaking arabic or worshiping Allah.

[bobbin]

No offense, but it doesn't really warrant a thread if you yourself don't believe they said "Allah-u-Akbar".

He was only wondering what it was they were saying, he only said it sounded similar and was not implying thats what was being said.

As for the OP I couldn't find anything remotely sounding like "allah u akbar" apart from the "Alahwan Faroz" I mentioned earlier, perhaps you could give us more detail? is it a particular unit that says it or do all units say it? is it linked to giving and order such as attacking or movement?

[Ludens]

Do you know what the sound recording is saying? I think its played when a move order is given.

No, but... why ask me? I am not a team member, and the Eastern factions are hardly my speciality.

[Hax]

Foot would probably know, he's the Hay-guy.

[Andranik]

when i move the soldiers thay say sometime but not always something that similar with "allahu akbar"

but maybe bobbin is right and they say not allahu akbar they say probably Alahwan Faroz


@ hax

"Foot would probably know, he's the Hay-guy. "

who is foot ?

[Hax]

Just about the Supreme Leader of all that is EB.

EDIT: Well, actually..that's not exactly true. You had khelvan who is no longer active, and Steppe Merc and then there's Aymar, who is still around, I think. Teleklos Archelaou and Krusader seem to manage the team now, but I don't know whether they are specialised in eastern history. It'd be best to either ask Foot or The Persian Cataphract.

[Cute Wolf]

Holy LOLZ?!? If you are real, then your EB files must be mixed with Broken Crescent memory

AFAIK Armenians today are Christians , just ask Vartan.

[Hax]

AFAIK Armenians today are Christians , just ask Vartan.

I think Armenians are predominantly Christians, with some Muslims around. Christianity in Armenia is probably even older than the Roman Catholic Church.

[Cute Wolf]

Well, back on topic, I suspect you hear is the run shouting command... "Sembaon, Woroo Wuoroo!" that on some occasion can be mistook as "Sembaon, Aloooo Wooakboo" that war similar with "Allahu Akbar" yell

[gamegeek2]

From an Old EB Voicemod preview:

The Parthian Pahlavî Project

“They ruled for more than three centuries, out of the four that was marked by the warrior-king Arsaces after slaying Andragoras. The Parthians ought to then be renowned after winning wars against Sacae, Seleucids, Bactrians and later the Romans. This is however not the case, as almost no surviving literati or textual corpus have been found from the colloquially Partho-Sassanian period. Thus the origins, but also the lineage of the Parthians remains obscure, and only referenced to in Graeco-Roman, Chinese and Indian sources. One may instantly wonder, how does one even start an effort in a voice-mod, let alone see through such an attempt when resources are sparse?

After almost nine months of studies in fragments and religious texts written in Old Persian, and Middle Persian (Pahlavî) as well as Pârsî as emerged from Ferdôwsî's national epic, the Shâhnâmêh, the audacious effort has from a handful of seeds blossomed into a garden. Extensive reading of sources such as the Bundâhîshn, Dênkârt, Kârnâmag-î Ardashîr-î Pâpakân, and commentaries of the Zend of Avestâ, in synchronization with the highly abused "Concise Pahlavî Dictionary" written by Prof. MacKenzie (It's concise alright...) and in comparative studying with fragments of inventories and dialogue sheets have proven to be an effective, albeit repeatitive method in understanding the structure of the language. As a native speaker, it is truly fascinating how truly alike the Middle Persian is to the Modern Persian, in spite of a significantly Arabicized vocabulary to the latter.

Another significant challenge was to adapt the Middle Persian, or largely Sassanian Pahlavî to the Parthian period in a homogenous manner in order to cover the four centuries of their political power era. As such the reconstruction contains residue from the previous Old Persian, which would mainly apply to early units; The Parthian Pahlavî was similar to the Old Persian language due to the fact that the Pahlavî they spoke resembled a mix of the Medean and Scythian tongue. In other words, the Parthians should be credited for conceiving the very basis of the Modern Persian language; A native speaker could with some effort understand Pahlavî, in difference to the Old Persian which more resembled Sanskrit. The ideal would have been to have some form of knowledge on the native Pârnî language; It is drastically different from the later Parthian language due to the fact that they belong to somewhat different branches of the Iranian language group. However due to an extreme scarcity of any representation of the Pârnî language, such ambitions were scrapped early on. This immediately lead to the choice of the Pahlavî/Middle Persian language. After all the player selects the Pahlavân for the sole reason of recreating a projected Persian Empire, and re-achieving what the Parthians did more than 2,000 years ago.

As for the effort within EB to reconstruct the Middle Persian language, it has been a labour of love which today stands finished in the form of a textual corpus of commands for the battle-field. The ambition does not finish there, but a separate chart for the campaign map will be composed, as will battle speeches. It is a premiere and a first time in the history of multimedia that a rendition of the Pahlavî language has ever been attempted and Europa Barbarorum takes great pride in breaking new grounds in the quest for achieving the status as a historically accurate and realistic simulator of the Hellenistic world. In combination with the Punic, Ancient Greek, Latin and Gallic voice-mods, in the humble opinion of the undersigned, no other effort have boasted such an extravagant spectrum of languages. It is a giant leap from the epic Hollywood movies, where accents were used to emphasize ethnic diversity. One must truly understand the implication of a bold attempt in reconstructing the poorly understood language of an entity which dominated the political scene of the post-Hellenistic Greater Iran for over eight centuries.

Naturally, besides the boasting, as with all voluntary works with limited verification, intellectual honesty is in place; We make no guarantees that the voice-mod of an extremely obscure and poorly attested language may be completely accurate. A dictionary with barely 4,000 entries had to be abused to death before significant progress could be made

So what happens afterwards, one may think in boring, legal context. For now, the project is the work-in-progress property of the Europa Barbarorum team, however once the voice-mod is complete and in-game, the textual corpus will become a public release available to anyone who wishes to make use of it.

Thanks go to Spurius_Brontosaurus, mAIOR and Kambiz for their interest and participation in the project, their enthusiasm provides the light of this frail candle of a dream in unveiling the greatness of Ancient Iranian culture ”

--The Persian Cataphract”

[Andranik]

i have never said that armenians are msulims !!!!!!!!

i know that armenias are christians - the first nation that was christian are the armenians !!!!



"Well, back on topic, I suspect you hear is the run shouting command... "Sembaon, Woroo Wuoroo!" that on some occasion can be mistook as "Sembaon, Aloooo Wooakboo" that war similar with "Allahu Akbar" yell"


hm .. your probably right

i will play again and make my volume more and than i probably hear it right ^^

[bobbin]

Alternatively you could go to "Rome - Total War\EB\Data\Sounds\Pahlava" in your game folder and find the sound file (they all play in windows media player), the "Alahwan Faroz" one I was talking about is named "Pahlava_General_1_Unit_Move_5"

[Weebeast]

Persians were very fond of their goddess Gwyneth Paltrow. This is reflected by the fact eastern skirmisher unit calls her name everytime you click....

[Rahwana]

Please no Muslim - Bashing again....

[Weebeast]

Please no Muslim - Bashing again....

Aaahh to a muslim begging please isn't complete without a threat in the end huh?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

It's a joke.

I don't think anyone is bashing muslim. OP just misheard.

[Rahwana]

Hey, did you want some threat? no, I won't start a flame war here (I was formerly a muslim, so I know them), but please show respect, as if this thread is spilled outside, you can made a public outcry here...