Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
you imply that we don't have the resources to fund it, why? and you ignore that a strategic deterrent is absolute rather than optional, why?
At this moment in time, what with the budget deficit and all. Once our financial situation is stabilised, we should get back to rebuilding our military capabilities.

Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
eu law having supremacy over UK law might be considered part of the problem, had you considered that?
I would say a bigger problem is that the biggest British Party in Europe has isolated itself from the legislative process that generates that law. And that doesn't change the fact that Eu Law is supreme to British law, regardless.

Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
yes indeed, and why is this catch 22 situation necessary for Britain?
Well, I was talking about strengthening EU institutions, and further integration as a whole. I would rather have a stronger, more accountable and integrated EU than the one we have at present.

Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
this isn't an argument about progressive taxation, it is an argument about too much taxation. we want less of it..
We do?

Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
and the other parties are offering us what? the point is this is a desirable trait, the public want it, so your point that it is invalid because it might be rescinded is utterly condescending.
I'm just pointing out that it's totally pointless, as the Tories wouldn't agree to any further integration anyway (And would rather pass the buck to an imaginary Poundland where 60 million people all despise the Barmy Brussels Bureaucrats ), and any government which does want further integration can get rid of that lock.


Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
Trident is an important part of the reason why Britain still has a UNSC seat, that is the definition of a good thing.

Trident is also a 100% guarantee against having to maintain massive standing armies on the threat of invasion, also the very definition of a good thing.

At £2b/year that is bloody good value for the utility it provides.
I agree, but now is not the right time to be thinking about a replacement.


Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
some truly stellar lib-dem policies:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/7...-policies.html
Truly stellar! Apart from the last (Which I need a sauce for) and the Trident thing, which I've already discussed.

Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
The 'call me dave' quotation game.

http://www.fridgemagnet.org.uk/toys/dave-met.php

Very funny.
I love it!