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    Well that depends on if your definition of Authoritarian extends to economic matters as well. Clearly yours does, and mine does not. Given that difference any arguing by either of us would just be banging our head against a wall.
    Of course it does. Social conservatism is generally authoritarian, just as left-wing economics are authoritarian. You just support fiscal authoritarianism. That's fine, we allow different opinions here, but at least come out and admit it.

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    Of course it does. Social conservatism is generally authoritarian, just as left-wing economics are authoritarian. You just support fiscal authoritarianism. That's fine, we allow different opinions here, but at least come out and admit it.
    Nope, I simply view Authoritarianism as a solely social descriptor. I would say that I support Collectivism, absolutely, but I don't see that as Authoritarian because it seeks to do away with perceived coercive institutions - as opposed to Authoritarianism, which I see as the active use and reinforcement of coercion.

    I don't want to turn this into another my-system-is-better-than-your-system thread so I won't say more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Nope, I simply view Authoritarianism as a solely social descriptor. I would say that I support Collectivism, absolutely, but I don't see that as Authoritarian because it seeks to do away with perceived coercive institutions - as opposed to Authoritarianism, which I see as the active use and reinforcement of coercion.

    I don't want to turn this into another my-system-is-better-than-your-system thread so I won't say more.
    I agree with CountAnarch, and his points.

    Read the definition of Libertarian Socialism, it is the most anti-authoritarian realistic system. How in anyway can it be considered Authoritarian.

    On the otherhand, having a monarchy, that is an authoritarian aspect to a system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    I agree with CountAnarch, and his points.

    Read the definition of Libertarian Socialism, it is the most anti-authoritarian realistic system. How in anyway can it be considered Authoritarian.

    On the otherhand, having a monarchy, that is an authoritarian aspect to a system.
    i'm not aware of ever meeting anyone who'd subscibe to that particular ideology.
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