The United Kingdom Elections 2010

[Ironside]

Unless I have misread something, the idea of self-expression, as he defines it, does not seem very individualistic to me at all. He seems to define it as "diversity" and "tolerance", and raising children to be part of his multicultural idea, not as actual freedom or individualism.

Nonetheless, that's only social. Once you factor in economic freedoms, Sweden shoots down the scale.

The abillity to be yourself and achive your induvidual goals without being forced to comprimise them for the greater good of the group? No laws, but massive social pressure isn't actual freedom or individualism either.

We're nr 21 in economic freedom. Funny link in some cases.

I was thinking of calling that linking as pulling a Louis. Link that shows contradicting data to general perception.. I think you'll like this one as well.

Won't be pulling a case of calling Sweden the freest country in the world, but main point was that left-wing economics doesn't oppose individualism by default.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

The abillity to be yourself and achive your induvidual goals without being forced to comprimise them for the greater good of the group?

I don't think that it how he defined it.

We're nr 21 in economic freedom.

I know.

I was thinking of calling that linking as pulling a Louis. Link that shows contradicting data to general perception.. I think you'll like this one as well.

Louis didn't actually show data that was contrary to the general perception. In my opinion he abused the statistics to try and prove a point that was tenuous at best, once outside factors are taken into account. Whether he does it to get a reaction or to stimulate thought, or both, I don't know.

Won't be pulling a case of calling Sweden the freest country in the world, but main point was that left-wing economics doesn't oppose individualism by default.

No, it does not. I don't disagree with that. But left-wing economics does oppose individual freedom, at least in that one area, more than free market economics does. Everything is on a scale.

[Ironside]

I don't think that it how he defined it.

No, but it's certainly a part of what individualism means. It can't possibly mean the opposite.

And Louis has been pulling that stuff before, part of his posting style. Not sure if he actually always agrees on what he posts when doing that.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

No, but it's certainly a part of what individualism means.

Indeed it is, but to use his data we must also use his definitions.

[Subotan]

Pity, the episodes don't play outside of the UK.

Use a British based proxy server.