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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Really? Think about it for a moment. When Thatcher came to power...
    Where will this go?...

    she increased wealth
    By stripping the nation of its assets to fund an unworkable system... (also, she basically gave those assets away)

    and tried to get people to buy their Council houses
    At a very undervalued price, which caused chaos due to lack of Council Housing for those who need it. and at the undervalued rate actually caused a netloss all around in taxes, council funds, interest and a host of other things, which resulted in only the buyer benefiting while everyone else suffered.

    because wealthy home owners vote Tory.
    Council House = Wealthy?

    Poor inner city people and people on benefits vote Labour, so do public sector workers.
    So poor people vote labour? Those dirty poor people, they should get a job and go to Eton. When they are getting 150,000 p.a. then they can be a good ol' conservative voter like you.

    In the past twelve years the things that have increased the most are the benefits budget and the public sector. I'm not saying Labour deliberately create poor people but they won't try to make people self sufficient. Instead, they prop people up using the public sector.
    In summary - You rob a old man of his walking stick, so he can walk. Rob some ones glasses to make them see. Instead of trying to get people off the streets, you should just let them stay on them. What a compassionate person you are, wanting to kick people when they are down. But no, wait, getting people out of poverty some how makes them poor... Some logic somewhere might make sense to you, but it doesn't to me. I think soical welfare and support is quite explanatory and does completely the opposite result then you are suggesting.

    Also, just to actually explain to people, what you mean by public sector - Increased Healthcare (NHS) and Increased Education (Schools, etc), etc. It sounds far less omnimous now.

    Labour is bad for wealth; it balloons the public sector and that creates a bubble and stiffles private enterprise. This is why all Labour Chancellors run out of money and the gap between rich and poor increases.
    Right, so your solution is to do the opposite? Slash all the public welfare and support programmes (which affects poor people the most), redistrubute taxes from the rich to the poor (which widens the gap), etc... or you are not sure what you are talking about.

    Labour is ideologically incompetent and out of date; all Blair did was paper of the cracks. If you want proof of this you just need to look at the 50% tax rate and the Bi-election they lost in a safe seat because they called the challenger "a Tory Toff".
    We don't have a 50% tax-rate... Only people who will have a 50% tax-rate are those earning over £150,000, which came in this year and those earning over £150,000 won't be affected much. Afterall, all, joe bloggs down here have the average wage of what, 18,000? I am sure they can manage that tax fine. If you are wondering. Basic rate tax we pay is 20%.
    Last edited by Beskar; 02-26-2010 at 19:56.
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