To Buy or NOT to Buy?

**Amun Nefer** · 01-05-2010, 07:00

I just take the view that if enough people are saying the same thing (and I doubt most of the negative ones there are BS) there must at least be something behind it and it's worth investigating. I don't mean this to sound like an insult, but saying that just because your experience was good means that all of that is false is completely unscientific and illogical. That is why you need to test something multiple times before you can each a real conclusion. For one thing a lot of these guys actually updated their reviews when new patches came out and found there were still glaring errors.

It's like saying everything on Wikipedia is fake. Sure there are a few guys that might screw things up and just be there to be troll and be morons, but the vast majority are trying to be helpful. I speak from experience that much of what I find is correct. Sure some people will take the fruitcake approach (bad mouthing without even trying it), but you can usually tell when that is the case.

It's not about price, but I figured if SF is 70 and Reg is 50 then why pay 20 bucks extra for some silly units? Even if one of them is Old Ironsides, it ain't worth it.

Professional Reviewers are people who A, might have some connections to the company and B, usually have monster machines and all the other crap needed for these games set up. I don't usually notice most bugs for the simple reason that I don't care enough to look for them (except glaring ones like messed up flags). It's like trusting a movie critic to call a film properly it's based on their opinion which people expect to be "professional" just because they're in a fancy magazine, newspaper or show that gives them some semblence of authenticity. Some of those things are basically just well-written ads. :/

Also hey there Hooah fellow Son of Abraham o/

**Fisherking** · 01-05-2010, 08:34

Look guy, we are talking about WARGAMERS here!

They Love to complain.

Here is someone who recently bought the game and gave his opinion of it. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=124736

It was a very buggy release but most things are fixed and it is an enjoyable game. It always was except for the technical issues.

If you download direct from Steam it can have a long install time but that depends on your connection.

Many of those reviews, the people have no idea of what they are doing...some are just crap and I wonder if they even bought the game.

If you are truly interested in knowing if it is worthwhile buying then just look around.

Oh! The SF edition is $40...and the regular is $39.99.

It still has a good player base almost a year after release.

If you just want to talk about negative reviews and bait people, that is a different story.

For what ever reason the US site seems to have been hit with a negative storm.... Was it deliberate?

I don’t know but it sure looks phony to me.

Try the UK reviews. Some love it and some hate it but at least more seem real and less made up.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-revi...DateDescending

Oh! The SF edition is $40...and the regular is $39.99.

**Amun Nefer** · 01-05-2010, 09:07

Generalisations seem to be big around here, no offence, but I've seen a lot of that. :/ I read most of those while I was getting a haircut. :p

Meh I was looking at D2D mate :) http://www.direct2drive.com/Search.a...%20Total%20War I don't usually shop around for video game prices because I rarely buy new ones these days and I see no reason to pay extra taxes and shipping costs for having something shipped to New York. Using Amazon to get the Reg version shipped here would be about 50 USD with taxes and shipping (unless it qualifies for free shipping in which case 5 off! :D) and the SF edition is 54 USD or so at the lowest (the list price is basically wrong if you look closer) and the shipping is at least 6 USD by standard and the tax is maybe 7% or so if I remember correctly so it's about 63 USD. Not 70 of course, but still not enough for me to buy it over Regular.

So what you're saying is that's it something akin to a chan-raid but on Amazon? That's strange. Alrighty, so I guess I could buy it and find out for myself. :/ I usually have a bit more luck with these things and I am pretty good at dealing with this comp.

I'm not baiting people mate. -.- If I wanted to troll I would, but I am actually interested in getting the opinions of Total war vets. I also want their replies to the negative reviews.

You shouldn't just assume because I'm new and being a bit negative about a product I'm here to troll. I understand why you're being somewhat hostile as you probably have a great feeling of pride in them and a need to defend their honour. I know the feeling, I feel the same way towards many of the games made by Impressions and Tilted Mill. I like these games a lot, but I want to make sure I don't get a bad product as this is real money we are talking about. :/

Sorry if I'm seeming rude or mean, but I'm just finding this place to be somewhat hostile. :/

**pevergreen** · 01-05-2010, 09:40

Originally Posted by Amun Nefer

Sorry if I'm seeming rude or mean, but I'm just finding this place to be somewhat hostile. :/

Mainly because your in this section.

I try to wade above it.

The people here are very nice, but since the launch of Med 2: Total War (I was not here before that) people have always been angry in the main game areas complaining and so forth. No one really defends the games and says they like them (apart from me, most of the time anyway. Always pre launch.

)

If you think someone goes over the line, PM the lovely Martok or Fisherking, they'll help you out.

(I respect Fisherking for his RL stuff and Martok is the Camel Master and my Lord. Plus it helps that they moderate this subforum.)

It is a good game. It all depends on your view of the time period and the tactics. I dislike the time period, yet I still like the game as it advances the Genre and the gameplay from M2 and RTW. Yet for a total war game, I'd rather sit and play rome (Which I do!) because that time period appeals to me.

For my playthrough on the game on the afternoon of release, check here: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=113673

(went in picked it up around 11am, came home installed it and then this. started at 1:25 pm)

It has a few thoughts mixed in.

**Fisherking** · 01-05-2010, 10:32

There are those who love this game and there are those who hate this game. There are those who hate anything CA does and make a lot of noise.

There are even people who just hate everything.

Everyone has had some complaints at one point or another. Complaining is no sin.

You may find that a lot of people here hold strong opinions but they will not attack you for yours...at least they shouldn’t.

This is a good game. It is not as good as it could have been, but that is different than being a poor game.

There is a great deal of replayablity and it can be a lot of fun.

I had a lot of complaints with some of the patches but I was never sorry that I bought the game.

Playing it on easy or medium is completely different from playing on hard or very hard.

There is a lot of depth to the game and if you like the TW games it is worth the money.

The dlc is also worth getting for the most part and not too expensive. But these are my subjective opinions and like anything else in life there are many who would disagree.

**Marten** · 01-05-2010, 12:07

My advice: Buy it! It's worth it. Really!

I played it through the complete christmas time, 'cause Max started a new campaign as austria. And he was never really persistent in games ... he got a new wife, three kids ... so i have to finish this until N:TW (all better AI, believe me!) comes out.

And pevergreen: I like the game ...

Buy it! End of transmission ...

**Amun Nefer** · 01-05-2010, 21:07

Haha! You know what this is exactly like? Sim City Societies. When that came out there was a great deal of anger about it in TM's forums, which were the semi-official ones. Most threads were something to the effect of "ZOMG YOU RUINED SIM CITY FOREVAR!!!!!!111" even though that was EA's fault, but that's a story for another time. Alrighty I see this is a similar situation and shall act accordingly.

Ha, I want to play as Austria given my heritage. (Austrian Jew so the old WWII jokes don't work on me :p) I was disappointed I couldn't play as them in MTWII. I know why, but it was still kinda lame. :(

I'd love to be able to link the games like you can with Paradox games. I'm trying to envision a combination of Paradox Games and Total War games. Basically combining two clear examples of Win into the ultimate form of EPIC WIN.