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    CountArach provides a very interesting link.
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    "Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."

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    Extra, extra, read all about it!

    Grand Ayatollah Montazeri to be succeeded by Yousef Sane'i

    Who is Yousef Sane'i?

    From what I've read, Marja Sane'i is one of the most competent possible spiritual successors to Ayatollah Montazeri. A few examples of what he's said:

    On women in Islam
    Quote Originally Posted by Yousef Sane'i
    We believe that women in the Islamic society must enjoy their individual as well as social rights so that they can even occupy the highest positions such as presidential or leadership positions.
    On non-Muslims
    Quote Originally Posted by Yousef Sane'i
    Therefore, I regard female and male, Muslim and Non-Muslim, Iranian and foreigner as equal. I have thoroughly discussed all points in this view and written on it. There are probably two laws regarding inheritance and divorce that may seem dubious.
    Go Iran!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    On non-Muslims
    His view about non-Muslims (if they obey a holy religion) is that they are not najis and they equally deserve to go to Paradise if they follow their religion sincerely.
    so still a nut-bag then, eh?

    to quote someone else; being the tallest midget does not qualify one to be a basketball player..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    so still a nut-bag then, eh?

    to quote someone else; being the tallest midget does not qualify one to be a basketball player..........
    Yes but it's "these nuts" vs. "dee's nuts." Usually it's better to have the former.


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    His view about non-Muslims (if they obey a holy religion) is that they are not najis and they equally deserve to go to Paradise if they follow their religion sincerely.
    Clear case of misinterpretation of what he means, exactly.

    Strictly speaking, Zoroastrians aren't Ahl al-Kitab either, as they are not mentioned as such in the Qu'ran. However, Mehdi Karroubi and Ayatollah Montazeri had held a lot of respect for the Zoroastrians in Iran, and I'm sure Sane'i is no exception.
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    Good article today, seems like some of the MSM is able to get past the underwear bomber and report on things that, you know, matter:

    Beatings, arrests, show trials and even killings have failed to discourage Iranians from taking to the streets in protest. But those same tactics may be taking a toll on the government itself, eating away at its legitimacy even among its core of insiders, Iran experts are saying. The evidence? Leaks.

    They began in December. Leaks about private meetings of the intelligence services and Revolutionary Guards; an embarrassing memo from state-owned television on how to cover the protests; a note about how the security services have been using petty criminals to fill out the ranks of pro-government demonstrations.

    There is no way to verify the accuracy of these leaks. But the government appears to have grown so angry and frustrated with what it calls a “soft war” to overthrow the state that it recently made it a crime to be affiliated with many foreign news outlets, dozens of nongovernmental organizations and opposition Web sites deemed “antirevolutionary.” [...]

    “I think the purged and discontented officials are the sources of increasingly revealing leaks to the press and to the Green Movement of activities and plans by leaders of the regime,” said Abbas Milani, director of Iran studies at Stanford University and a critic of the government, referring to the opposition movement.

    The leaks could be a symptom of disillusionment and, perhaps, of the supreme leader’s decision to marginalize all but the most loyal. Yet, while the leaks provide evidence of divisions, they cannot answer questions about how deep the rifts go or what they say about the trajectory of the crisis or the stability of the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Clear case of misinterpretation of what he means, exactly.

    Strictly speaking, Zoroastrians aren't Ahl al-Kitab either, as they are not mentioned as such in the Qu'ran. However, Mehdi Karroubi and Ayatollah Montazeri had held a lot of respect for the Zoroastrians in Iran, and I'm sure Sane'i is no exception.
    How about those of us who don't follow any religion at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Clear case of misinterpretation of what he means, exactly.

    Strictly speaking, Zoroastrians aren't Ahl al-Kitab either, as they are not mentioned as such in the Qu'ran. However, Mehdi Karroubi and Ayatollah Montazeri had held a lot of respect for the Zoroastrians in Iran, and I'm sure Sane'i is no exception.
    all very well, provided those beardy nutcases in the religious militias don't pop around to my downtown tehran pad and try rearrange my face for me........................

    i don't have that confidence.
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