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    cos i heard all those horrid stories about nasty beardy men invading uni dorms and beating up students, and i'm not sure they'll just disappear like the tooth fairy when this knight with a shining koran turns up.............
    Don't act like you're suddenly forced to move to some remote village some threehundred kilometers east of Qom.

    Ever heard of the saying "One step at a time"?
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    Iran's state propaganda decided to 'tell the truth' about Neda's death.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-Jg...ipcontrinter=1

    I don't know if I should laugh or curse. I wonder who will buy this nonsense that she was a foreign agent and faked her death....

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    Mehdi Karroubi survives assassination attempt

    "There was an attempted assassination attempt against Mehdi Karroubi several hours ago, when the cleric and leading opposition figure arrived in Qazvin for a mourning ceremony of opposition supporters killed in protests.
    One of Karroubi’s family members gave this first-hand account to the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran:
    “Members of the Basij and Revolutionary Guards gathered at their garrisons prior to Mr. Karroubi’s arrival. As soon as he entered Qazvin, they appeared. Their actions were fully coordinated with Fars News Agency. As soon as Mr. Karroubi entered the private home where he was staying, Fars News reported it. The coordination between the Revolutionary Guards and Fars News was extensive.
    When the Basij and Revolutionary Guards members assembled to protest Karroubi’s presence in Qazvin, two bullets were fired at his car. Fortunately the car was bullet proof. The front windshield was much stronger and only cracked. Otherwise the bullets would have entered the car and caused serious injuries.
    I believe the message to Mr. Karroubi is that he is not safe anywhere he goes and if he doesn’t restrict himself to his house, he will be targeted.”
    Fars News is closely affiliated with the IRGC."


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    At least one analyst sees the beginnings of an Islamic Enlightenment coming out of Iran:

    The Green Movement (and the Ayatollah Khamenei’s clumsy response to it) has exacerbated a split with Shiism. It has accelerated the development of profound and potentially far-reaching doctrinal innovations. The course of the coming months will determine the extent to which these innovations will transform Shiism and Iran. [...]

    To varying degrees, thinkers and theologians identified with the democratic movement have been offering a new reading of Shiism that makes the faith more amenable to democracy and secularism. The most significant innovation—found in essays, sermons, books, and even fatwas—is the acceptance of the separation of mosque and state, the idea that religion must be limited to the private domain. Some of these thinkers refuse to afford any privileged position to the clergy’s reading and rendition of Shiism--a radical democratization of the faith. And others, like Akbar Ganji and Mostafa Malekian, have gone so far as to deny the divine origins of Koran, arguing that it is nothing but a historically specific and socially marked interpretation of a divine message by the prophet. The most daring are even opting for a historicized Muhammad, searching for the first time in Shia history for a real, not hagiographic, narrative of his life.

    God bless 'em, and may they prosper.

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    I wonder who will buy this nonsense that she was a foreign agent and faked her death”: Probably a lot of people, if I follow how many follow conspiracy theories in our world…
    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.

    "I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
    "You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
    "Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
    Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"

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