Camillian units routing too easily?

**fallen851** · 01-11-2010, 16:02

I feel like Camillian units are overpowered in my Romani campaign...

**Intranetusa** · 01-12-2010, 04:13

Camillian Roman units are like zerglings...they're cheap and die fast, but the AI can pump them out faster than you can kill them.

**Cute Wolf** · 01-12-2010, 05:02

Originally Posted by Intranetusa

Camillian Roman units are like zerglings...they're cheap and die fast, but the AI can pump them out faster than you can kill them.

Seconded on Camillan Hastati and Leves....

**Rahwana** · 01-12-2010, 08:10

Actually, you must understand on how the Camillan hastati are used, they are used as primary front line infantry to tire your enemy, but as in RTW everyone get tired too fast (and there was a mere difference for tired units to fresh one), Hastati is used as center holding, while the Princeps do the flanking

**seienchin** · 01-12-2010, 11:00

Originally Posted by fallen851

I feel like Camillian units are overpowered in my Romani campaign...

For the player maybe、but the ki is helpless with them, cause you can just overun them with cavallery.
Every faction with phalangitai is way more deadly in the KIs hand.

**Rahwana** · 01-12-2010, 12:09

Originally Posted by seienchin

For the player maybe、but the ki is helpless with them, cause you can just overun them with cavallery.
Every faction with phalangitai is way more deadly in the KIs hand.

So don't blame the AI if their camillan roosters are mostly triarii

**Intranetusa** · 01-12-2010, 19:34

Originally Posted by Sonic

So don't blame the AI if their camillan roosters are mostly triarii

Camillian triariis are one of my all time favorite units! :D

They look awesome and have great stats as an above average/semi-elite hoplite...I usually build 2-3 full stacks of entirely triariis as my "elite troops" to punch through the crazy 3 silver chevron barbaro elites in the north. (this is with TW fanatic's phalanx mod)

After the reforms, I like to keep them around guarding the pennisula against pirates and any naval invasions.

**antisocialmunky** · 01-13-2010, 02:01

Originally Posted by Sonic

So don't blame the AI if their camillan roosters are mostly triarii

I thought that only the Sweboz was able to recruit the unit Rooster.

**Optimus Tertius** · 01-20-2010, 22:46

Haven't had that before. In fact fighting the romans is very hard all the times (for me). What is your difficulty-setting for the battles? That could possibly be the issue...

Anyway, is the AI supposed to have the reforms earlier than you can achieve them? I was playing the romanii and got attacked by sweboz elite-pikeman (wich are quite strong)...and that was in 242 BC...they only had 6 settlements at that time and they weren’t fully developed yet...seems a bit unlikely to me that they already met the requirements for the reform.

**Drag0nUL** · 01-20-2010, 23:02

I was playing on medium battle difficulty.

**Metaluis90** · 01-21-2010, 06:14

are u serious with that statement about the hastatii? I mean, I've conquered all my lands thanks to them!! they hold on like if there were no return! speciallly when they are put in guard mod, not even GOD moves them!
I have recieved calvary charges, multiple superior in-the-role enemies (as getasae or whatever) and they are superb in what I used them for: tiring the enemy, then I let the others make the dirty job and slaughter those smelly gauls!

**Dyabedes of Aphrodisias** · 01-21-2010, 09:04

Originally Posted by Optimus Tertius

Haven't had that before. In fact fighting the romans is very hard all the times (for me). What is your difficulty-setting for the battles? That could possibly be the issue...

Anyway, is the AI supposed to have the reforms earlier than you can achieve them? I was playing the romanii and got attacked by sweboz elite-pikeman (wich are quite strong)...and that was in 242 BC...they only had 6 settlements at that time and they weren’t fully developed yet...seems a bit unlikely to me that they already met the requirements for the reform.

The Germanic pikemen aren't reform units. They're available from the beginning with the level 5 MIC. The Swebox reforms give them Germanic Heavy Infantry and Germanic Heavy Cavalry, nothing more.