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Trent "When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either."
Lott

"I wanna tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there's not enough troops in the army to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the nigra race into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes, and into our churches." Strom Turmond during his presidential campaign

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George "Let's give a welcome to macaca (monkey), here. Welcome to America and the real world of Virginia." Allen? Who didn't resign btw, even if it did cost him the election.

Suure, it's on the same level.

LOL. The negro dialect is the same way white trash from the south talk. It's just the poor southern dialect, there's nothing "negro" about it

God the more I post here the more I think some of you were raised in bubbles..

This always bothers me. Why should a U.S. politician be knowledgeable of all European racial slurs? It's clearly a play on the name as the person isn't even a black African.

Well, he could simply have used a made up word, that accidently was a racial slur. He could have played on mohawk as claimed (and not S.R. Sidarth's real name) and possibly used a word he heard in his youth (his mother lived in region where they might've used it).

But he is also using it in a very disparaging context, so unless he has a notable habit of spewing out nonsense words in that context, it's way more probable that he had some knowledge of it's derogatory context as an insult based on race.

It has confirmed use in north africa, where there's a certain lack of black people. It's not like only blacks can and have been exposed to racial slurs.

This is legitimate and my main problem with the statement. IIRC Mohawk monkey boy worked for a political opponent and the statement demonstrated a lack of basic respect.

This comin' from the guy who called me a "crazy injun" in jest and had no idea that where I'm from, the word "injun" is very much a racist term on par with the n-word that we're supposedly not allowed to post on the Org.



That truly would be awesome. I particularly enjoy saying that last phrase out loud.

It doesn't have common enough or consistent enough usage to assume anything about the person who says it. Same with negro. And "honest injun" is an expression. Like saying "scout's honor".

And you are totally correct. But it still makes me have one sad smiley.

I don't get "honest injun", I tried going through google and it basically means "being honest".

Isn't that a compliment? I rather be racially stereotyped as being a honest person than a dishonest one. (like Blacks and Scousers usually are)

Perhaps urban dictionary can help:

Or perhaps not...

Oh geeze...

Mammy is an example of a "good stereotype", yet no one would go up to a black woman and call her "Aunt Jemima".

I believe the implication is that most "Injuns" are not honest.

This from the man who once called me a "Self centred ignorant Euro", and uses "Euro" the way White Supremists use "Coloured".

Oh, and for the record I don't hate you, I just don't like being racially stereotyped based on what continent my Island happens to be proximate to.

you silly brits with your sensitivity, then again i wouldnt want to be considered european either.


seriously are there any black people in europe? either way it doesnt matter because they wouldnt speak in eubonics...... which is this dialect we are all tap dancing around. yes it exists, yes it is most common with urban black but as strike said it is also used by white people. mainly wannabee surburban white kids, and poor white people. it really isnt a "negro dialect" its a poor person dialect thats hella difficult to understand sometimes.

what reid said was a tad blunt but was pretty true. americans would vote for a white dude who walked around talking bout his homies and his ho's. the only thing i see wrong is his statement that it is an exclusively black dialect.


lol i always forget that honestly most of you europeans rarely see black people. while over in america they make up 17% of the population. i mean im surronded by black people where i live in the midatlantic and im not even in Mississippi or alabama where the populations are humongous.

(im sure you would understand why there are more blakcs in the south than the north. )

anyway in essence what im saying is that Sen. Reids comments were ignorantly phrased but unfortunately true to some extent.

Rarely see black people? To be sure it'll depend on what part of Europe you comment. But let's put it this way: utterly rubbish.

You haven't travelled much, have you?


Paris is a white-minority city. It is impossible to get reliable statistics, but I think there are more Africans than Frenchmen in Paris.

However that may be, pictures of the real Paris. Not the troubled suburbs, just the city itself (intra muros), which is extremely diverse:

Well, as you said, it's only rubbish depending on where you live. Admittedly, I don't give it very much though either way, but thinking back, I could name a few cities where he would be correct, as well as a few where he would be incorrect.

Well my apologies gentlemen. My real point was yes you have blacks and Arabs and Indians (probably quite a few more Arabs than the US actually, especially France) but the African-American does not have anything really resembling a traditional African social life..... in stereotype of course. this is what i meant to imply, that you all have few African-Americans not simply blacks. i mistakenly used the word black instead of African-American

And actually Louis i have visited a few European countries, mostly to visit extended family but over the course of my almost 18 years i have been to Croatia, Russia, Ireland, Britain (wales to be precise), and northern France (though only for a few days with some like second cousins or something).

I have also been to Mexico (and not just Tijuana) as well as Canada, lol.


my apologies if my rubbish offended anyone.

That man is standing irresponsibly close to the train tracks. Coincidentally, he doesn't look very French.

I see this "negro" gaffe as simply that. And old man using old terminology. It is quite awkward, but not much more so than the kind old lady that can't help but say "Oriental" in your presence.

It isn't rubbish. It's all in where the European has been and where they live.

I actually don't bother capitalizing the term "euro."

A local clown once put up a sign a short distance behind the welcoming sign to my First Nation. It read something along the lines of, "If you look close enough, you might just see an Indian." It's sharp humour and irony gave me a good laugh, though it was sadly taken down since I last went out.

He doesn't?

He looks very french to me....

We see them often enough, it's not as though we don't have have non-white people. And you're wrong about the accent, over here they affect a pseudo-Carribean one.

You still use it in a racist context, to define me as a person based on my continent. It's like calling someone an "African" and meaning an ignorant savage.

No way is it that high. 12% is more accurate.


Those are all almost exclusively white(Except maybe North France)

I don't mind it at all.

I've always thought it was 13%....

Russia and Croatia are almost completely white, Ireland is almost as monotone, and in rural Wales "Black" can still refer to the Northern Welsh with dark hair; if "Northern France" actually means Brittany then you've basically visited the five places least affected by immigration.

I don't mind being called European, but Methuselah uses "Euro" the way he complains about other using the "N-word". It's the same as being called "Whitey", which is also derogatory.

It's funny because he capitalizes first nation but not Euro.

And HoreTore, I think everybody has their own prejudices about who looks french. To say someone looks french or not already is applying prejudice to the looks of the person, isn't it?

Gah. "African" as an intended insult is so quaint. "Mongoloid" is where it's at.

You make the assumption I'm ignorant. I know exactly what injun means and in what context its used..

However it is not on the same level as the "N" word because if that were true the Washington Redskins (amore offensive term) would've changed there name long ago

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