Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
More like not taking no for an answer, adults like to have fun as well. What is the problem it is perfectly harmless. All work no play makes Jack a very dull boy.

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But we aren't talking about actual rape, is sado-masochism really torture or is it just a game, same here. Is sadism a word you can deal with without it's context.
I understand what you're talking about here, but you're putting yourself in the disturbing position of allowing the man to interpret when no means yes. That's what results in date rape. No means no, period, unless it's part of BDSM play and there's a safe-word involved.