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    Default Re: Woohoo! Go, Scott Brown.

    Looks like Obama has gotten the message and responded appropriately. Bravo, Barry-o, a very classy and presidential response that is worthy of respect.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8470187.stm
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    Default Re: Woohoo! Go, Scott Brown.

    Obama is an experience Chicago-school politician. He knows how to play the game fairly well and (though the right-wing radio frothers will not admit it) with a modicum of class as well.

    I loathe his POLICIES, but he is neither stupid nor impolite.


    For AP:

    US conservatives come in many stripes.

    The fiscal responsibility subset hates the latest health care effort because it will NOT reduce costs. No government essay into insurance/health care here in the USA has ever done so. Moreover, the quality improvement generated by government involvement is rarely, if ever, of the same magnitude as the increased costs. They grumbled over the wall street and bank bailouts, but tolerated them in the name of financial stability. They hated the auto bailout thinking the monies will be wasted on companies doomed to fail anyway.

    The anti-big government subset hates the latest health care effort because it puts more and more federal government control in place over healthcare. They view this as unwarranted government interference in private life. They also hated the Bush bailouts of Wall Street and the Banks AND the Obama bailout of the car industry.

    The state's rights subset hates the latest health care effort because it doesn't adhere to the implicit limitations set forth the the Constitution and re-iterated in the 10th ammendment thereto. They view this as yet another effort/means by which to neuter the several states in favor of a one-government for all system. They hated the bank bailouts and auto bailouts as well.

    The right to life subset hates the latest health care effort because it will end up using government money to fund abortions -- regardless of the codicil that seeks to prevent same. This subset rarely cares about any other issue, view abortion as both a crime and an inherent evil. Obama doesn't expect a lot of votes from this crowd anyway, so they have limited influence.

    The libertarian subset hates the latest health care effort because it will end up increasing the federal government's role, increase taxation, and take away from their individual choice. This reflects a good bit of the "rugged individualism" mindset.


    These subsets are not, of course, mutually exclusive. Moreover, all of them are aided and abetted in the case of the Brown race by the GOP subset. That subset views the enhancement of GOP power as the ultimate goal in and of its own.
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