The Unbelievable Tale of King Wishiwashi [Concluded]

[Renata]

I hate when mods WIFOM you. I say they should be punished for it at every opportunity. So

vote: Double A

Unless that's what he wants us to do.

[Diamondeye]

I hate when mods WIFOM you. I say they should be punished for it at every opportunity. So

vote: Double A

Unless that's what he wants us to do.

I'm so used to Andres' confusing manners in tCD that I don't really know what to do with this situation.

I do think, however, that Double A is the "special role" Andres mentioned. He must be good for something. Therefore, vote: Renata. Can't have Renata killing our only special role, can we?

[Renata]

I'm so used to Andres' confusing manners in tCD that I don't really know what to do with this situation.

I do think, however, that Double A is the "special role" Andres mentioned. He must be good for something. Therefore, vote: Renata. Can't have Renata killing our only special role, can we?

See, we have three possibilities here:
-- Double A is King Wishiwashi, and Andres is having fun with us.
-- Double A is the special role, and Andres is screwing us by putting that likelihood up in neon lights for the Mafia (who knows he is not Double A) to see.
-- Double A is a random peasant, and Andres is having fun with us.

You really think it's likely Andres is screwing us?

[Renata]

I should say that I don't. Which has the corollary that if somehow Double A is the special role, then there must be compensation of some sort in that role for the fact that Andres put a "kick me" sign on his back.

If he's not the special role, I'm for lynching him.

Which I suppose implies that I am asking for a role-type claim from Double A, only.

[Andres]

I hate when mods WIFOM you.

But you always act so funny when being WIFOM'ed

I enjoy watching you guys being utterly confused

I'm a bad person

[Renata]

But you always act so funny when being WIFOM'ed

I enjoy watching you guys being utterly confused

I'm a bad person

That shame smily is totally convincing. :nod:

[Double A]

Hi, I'm King Wishiwashi and I'm here to kill you!

We really need to find King Wishiwashi before anything bad happens.

[Renata]

Well, all righty then.

unvote: DoubleA; vote: Joooray

Here's my theory, and I might be right and I might be wrong. But if DoubleA is not the Mafia (he may yet be, pending the possibility of counterclaim or night action by the actual special role, who I may as well at this point say is not me), then Andres' opening post would have implied to Mafia that he well be the special role. Or he could have been normal town, and Andres playing games, but the key here is that the mafia would know that DoubleA was town.

Given a town DoubleA, and a strong possibility of a special-role DoubleA, the Mafia has no incentive to make an issue of the WIFOM. That player already knows the answer. In fact there is a significant disincentive to do so -- if DoubleA does turn out to be the special role, if you question him, you look bad. Looking bad could easily get you lynched day one. So much for your plans to kill the traitor townies.

However, if some town does question the WIFOM? Well dang, that's a scummy move, isn't it? Trying to kill the obvious special role! Easy EASY rationale for a vote. Too easy, given it doesn't stand up to much examination.

Diamondeye and Joooray can't both be scum; of the two I think Joooray's unvote/second vote is marginally more suspicious.

[Double A]

Hi, I'm King Wishiwashi and I'm here to kill you!

That was very confusing Renata. Almost like a certain other mafia game most people are playing right now, which will remain unnamed, but on a smaller scale.

[Renata]

It's not that complicated. Joooray or DE is high odds to be the mafia, if it's not you.

[Diamondeye]

I can see your reasoning, Renata. And I am not convinced of DBL A's innocence, but if he is the special role he needs a night to prove himself (if he has a nighttime ability). If he's an ordinary townie it's an obvious setup that he is "shielding" the real special role from attention. If he's mafia then this game is either really wicked or really odd or, quite possibly, both.

In any case I think it's fair to let him live through day one to be sure.

It seems as if he has to start his posts with that sentence... Makes it even more unlikely that he is the mafia (although if he is, it's masterly played). So let's go with "no lynching of DBL A for now".

I like your contribution to the thread more than Joooray's. That means unvote: Renata, vote: Joooray. If I am your 2nd suspect and Joooray is lynched, I'd appreciate if an eventual investigator could check me tonight. That leaves us off for a good day 2 if there actually are any investigators around and without your top suspect in any case.