The Unbelievable Tale of King Wishiwashi [Concluded]

**Double A** · 01-20-2010, 21:04

Hi, I'm King Wishiwashi and I'm here to kill you!

We really need to find King Wishiwashi before anything bad happens.

**Renata** · 01-20-2010, 21:44

Well, all righty then.

unvote: DoubleA; vote: Joooray

Here's my theory, and I might be right and I might be wrong. But if DoubleA is not the Mafia (he may yet be, pending the possibility of counterclaim or night action by the actual special role, who I may as well at this point say is not me), then Andres' opening post would have implied to Mafia that he well be the special role. Or he could have been normal town, and Andres playing games, but the key here is that the mafia would know that DoubleA was town.

Given a town DoubleA, and a strong possibility of a special-role DoubleA, the Mafia has no incentive to make an issue of the WIFOM. That player already knows the answer. In fact there is a significant disincentive to do so -- if DoubleA does turn out to be the special role, if you question him, you look bad. Looking bad could easily get you lynched day one. So much for your plans to kill the traitor townies.

However, if some town does question the WIFOM? Well dang, that's a scummy move, isn't it? Trying to kill the obvious special role! Easy EASY rationale for a vote. Too easy, given it doesn't stand up to much examination.

Diamondeye and Joooray can't both be scum; of the two I think Joooray's unvote/second vote is marginally more suspicious.

**Double A** · 01-20-2010, 21:46

Hi, I'm King Wishiwashi and I'm here to kill you!

That was very confusing Renata. Almost like a certain other mafia game most people are playing right now, which will remain unnamed, but on a smaller scale.

**Renata** · 01-20-2010, 22:00

It's not that complicated. Joooray or DE is high odds to be the mafia, if it's not you.

**Subotan** · 01-20-2010, 22:05

Or me

**Diamondeye** · 01-20-2010, 22:11

I can see your reasoning, Renata. And I am not convinced of DBL A's innocence, but if he is the special role he needs a night to prove himself (if he has a nighttime ability). If he's an ordinary townie it's an obvious setup that he is "shielding" the real special role from attention. If he's mafia then this game is either really wicked or really odd or, quite possibly, both.

In any case I think it's fair to let him live through day one to be sure.

It seems as if he has to start his posts with that sentence... Makes it even more unlikely that he is the mafia (although if he is, it's masterly played). So let's go with "no lynching of DBL A for now".

I like your contribution to the thread more than Joooray's. That means unvote: Renata, vote: Joooray. If I am your 2nd suspect and Joooray is lynched, I'd appreciate if an eventual investigator could check me tonight. That leaves us off for a good day 2 if there actually are any investigators around and without your top suspect in any case.

**Renata** · 01-20-2010, 22:31

One "special role", one mafia, four townies. Exactly where are you expecting to find this hypothetical investigator who's going to make you look innocent? Are you sure you're not just talking for the sake of saying something, Diamondeye? Not to mention that your whole first three paragraphs is about a hundred words to decide not to do something that no one was currently advocating, anyway; or that what you actually did in order to second my ideas was to discard not Joooray's reasoning, but your own.

I think I might have picked the wrong one.

unvote; vote: Diamondeye

Now watch it be Centurion1. Or even Subotan with the WIFOM.

**Diamondeye** · 01-20-2010, 22:38

I was hypothising about the special role being the investigator. If that justifies a lynch then I'm fine with it and I bet so is King Wishiwashi.

**Joooray** · 01-20-2010, 22:38

Well alright, lynch me, I haven't contributed as much as Renata so it's only fair. I'm not the king though, so it won't help in long term, but I'm not the special role either so the harm should be minimal.

My Vote stays on Renata though. Yes, you have contributed quite a lot, especially for a first round and I like your reasoning, but it's also a nice way to hide from suspicion against oneself. Just get up a huge wall of words and thus differed the attention to other people. If I should be lynched then I'd like the rest of the town to keep a close eye on Renate. Apart from that as I said I support leaving Double A alive for the time being, but also under close examination, but I don't think there is an investigator role present in such a small game.