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    yeah good! I have some nice music.

    Bubuka Gajah Putih Ngalng Jagat. good for battle music.
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/945920...Jagat.mp3.html
    and this one Kacapi and Tarawangsa.
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/945920...angsa.mp3.html

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    just found nice music for european.
    http://www.ziddu.com/download/946020...eReal.wma.html

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    Salam tuan-tuan semua,

    I suggested some revision of a few unit names (if it can be changed) based on Hikayat Hang Tuah.

    a) Milisi - I think this is not Malay word, it is a loanword from English Militia, while in Hikayat Hang Tuah the word used for unamoured /untrained unit is Penjurit or prajurit

    "Maka sembah Tun Tuah, "Daulat Tuanku, tiada berguna pegawai sekalian; janganlah berperang bermati-mati, sekadar menaiki kuda ini lagi tiada mau. Sia-sialah menjadi pegawai; layaknya menjadi Penjurit berjalan malam mengambil harta orang dan membunuh orang juga.”

    In this dialogue, Tun Tuah was condemning the officers (pegawai) because of the inability to handle a horse, and their status were same as militia or guerilla (penjurit).

    Hikayat Hang Tuah told a few cases that the penjurit run amuck killing people, stealing and robbing, in this dialogue, Tun Tuah referring penjurit as berjalan malam (walking at night), mengambil harta orang (stealing and robbing) and membunuh orang (killing people).

    b) Milisi Panah Melayu – just named it Pemanah or Pemanah Melayu

    c) Tentera serbu Melaka – no such thing as tentera serbu, change it to pasukan penggempur / tentera penggempur / pasukan tempur (shock trooper)

    d) Melayu Dalam – just named it Orang Pedalaman / Orang Melayu Pedalaman / Orang Gunung (mountain people), or Orang Hulu / Orang Ulu (upper river people)

    e) Malay regular Infantry – regular infantry were addressed as Hulubalang in hikayat Hang Tuah

    f) Bodyguard of Mentri (Minister) - were addressed as Pegawai dan Pertuanan in Hikayat Hang Tuah, some of them were riding horses, some of them walking

    “Maka Temenggung dan patih naik kuda. Maka segala pegawai yang banyak itu ada yang naik kuda, ada yang berjalan di tanah mengiringkan.”

    “Maka Bendahara dan Temenggung pun menyembah lalu keluar diiringkan oleh segala pegawai dan pertuanan”

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    Default Re: Nusantara Total War : Portugese Invasion

    correct me if I wrong, Laskar also mean Prajurit, right?

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    I am not sure about that....have to check KAMUS DEWAN....but I know that Laskar and Askar (loanword from Arab) come from Persian word "Lashkar"... in Hikayat Hang Tuah and Sejarah Melayu, the word that used for unit were: Penjurit (I think for militia); Hulubalang (I think for regular infantry); Pegawai dan Pertuanan (always used for Mentri bodyguard, some using horse, some not); Bentara (special bodyguard, in hikayat Hang Tuah, Hang Tuah and 5 of his siblings were appointed firstly as Penghulu bodyguard, than Bendahara bodyguard, after that as Bentara [the court bodyguard], than appointed as Laksamana [Melaka envoys]); Kesatria (special for Benua Keling [India] knight; and gajah kenaikan (Melaka Sultan and Raja Muda riding elephant)......the word Seridadu / serdadu (soldadu) also mentioned, but came with / after Portuguese invasion, maybe the loanword from Portuguese, (ie: Soldier).

    I also encountered with the word pahlawan and pendekar , like the sentences "pendekar yang memegang pedang bertelanjang (no scabbard)..."but not sure about their ranking...

    Hikayat Hang Tuah also mention the about aborigines people from scattered small island...They were called as Sakai and their elder as Batin....using Sumpit (blowpipe) and Damak (dart)...

    But I not encounter with the word Laskar / askar from my reading....
    Last edited by Nyz; 04-18-2010 at 11:53.

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