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    Default Re: Nusantara Total War : Portugese Invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by intifadanyz View Post
    Thanks Mr. Cute Wolf. Here my suggestion:

    a) Melayu-Sriwj Spearmen (javelin-spears) = Penjurit
    is the usage of the word penjurit here parallel with the units that used word prajurit in Jawa and Pajajaran? If it’s parallel, than ok, we have some connection here…
    true, so they are verivied

    b) Melayu Shock Trooper (double swords) = Tentera Penggempur
    Melayu shock trooper used double sword, how about change it to Pendekar?
    Pendekar, or more rightly "Pandekar" is allready taken by Javanese commoner knights... I remember to read about them, prisoners, former pirates and convicts, that volunteered to fight in the shock troops as a pardon (pangampunan) to their past crimes, mentioned in acehnese articles, but they also mention that Malaysian sultanates also have this kind of pardon system... so I guess they are common shock troops employed that time... (two handed sword is probably only our (sonic and me) interpretation, since it was hard to think you are only given one sword and must go charge the enemy line without a shield or any kind of protection (they said about only wearing simple clothes), and another sentences mentioned that their hands are full of blood (indirectly means that they use both hands to swing different swords - as in Acehnese soldiery, great two handed sword (peusangan) are reserved only for military cadets, and not criminals).

    c) Melayu-Sriwj Mariners (archer-2handed spears) = Tentara Laot (?)
    Hulubalang

    d) Melayu-Sriwj Halberdiers (2handed spear-axes) = Penjurit Tombak-Kapak (?)
    Well, Pengawitan is the name for Melakan infantry equipped with special spear stated in hikayat Hang Tuah. (tombak pengawitan bersampak emas)...
    And in this matter, I must say that I'll stick with tentara anyway, because that was how the Sumateran sea warriors are described. And with Halberdiers, maybe I'll use Pangawitan, as you suggested...

    e) Melayu Ottoman Elite Infantry (archer-scimitars) = Pahlawan Syamisir (?)
    You said that in Babad Tanah Jawi, it was called Bala Kauman?
    The Bala Kauman... was the Half arab swordsmen, they are quite different unit since they are only wearing a swords, the "Ottoman Elite Infantry" are Aceh and Melayu's immitation for Ottoman Janissary... and I think that should be that way.... and because "Kauman means another thing" I'll use Arab instead...

    f) Melayu Heavy Archers (archer-scimitars) = Serdadu Pemanah
    The word serdadu have connotation with Portuguese and scimitars were the influence from middle-east....maybe just used Pemanah or Laskar Pemanah, because the usage of scimitars here.
    Thanks... verivied

    g) Malakan Elite Mariners (javelin-axes) = Hulubalang Laot (?)
    I am not sure, in Hikayat Hang Tuah, there were stated the word perapit, and in other chapter, penjajap
    So we'll stick to the Hulubalang then...

    h) Malakan Royal Swordsmen (longswords) = Bentera Istana (?)
    Bentara

    i) Aiyyah…..so many elephant….Anyway, for the elephant, I think only Melakan Sultan and faction heir and sometimes others royal family members (not all) used elephant, that was: Melayu Royal War Elephants and it was called Gajah Kenaikan.
    Verivied

    Some of the royal members used horse, while the others used Palanquin.ie Paduka Tuan (Melakan Bendahara during reign of Sultan Mahmud Syah) fight Portuguese on the Palanquin, also Sultan Mahmad Syah II (last Johore Sultan from Melakan Sultan lineage) also has been kill on Palanquin. I don't think the commoners used elephant.

    j) Melayu Noble Cav (lances-cavlswords) - Pegawai dan Pertuanan. I think this unit can be made as recruitable general unit

    k) For Acheh, the nobles were called Ulèë Balang. Which unit suited them? Acheh Royal Horsemen or Acehnese Honorary Guards?
    Too bad, the engines can't help in multiple bodyguard units... Maybe for that reason, I'll made recruitable bodyguards on cavalry available... but the default BG unit will be the Elephants....
    The noble cavalry will have their BG version maybe....

    and acehnese Honorary guards will go as "Sahabat Istana" , because Ulee Balang represent broader nobility, and those "Sahabat Istana" are actually palace guardsmen....

    Oh yeah, I forgot to include those unit:
    - Peusangan Askar / Acehnese Cadet Shock Troopers (wielding large two handed sword)
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