Maratha is overpowered

[BharatRakshak]

Maratha is not really overpowered. The economy of the Indian subcontinent was historically very rich and it wasn't until late 1800s (already a good century under British colonization and wealth being sucked out) that the economy of the subcontinent began lagging that of the United States. If you have the entire India under your rule and you have the military-strategic vision of the then hungry Europeans and Americans, you can basically make India a superpower.
What the game lacks perhaps, is it is missing an extra level of court intrigue/betrayals/factionalism etc which is really what allowed for the British to establish themselves in India (not technological advancement).

Historically the Marathas were all set to take control of the entire subcontinent in the mid 1700s, read the article on Third Battle of Panipat on wiki to find out what I mean.

[Marshall Louis-Nicolas Davout]

Maratha is not really overpowered. The economy of the Indian subcontinent was historically very rich and it wasn't until late 1800s (already a good century under British colonization and wealth being sucked out) that the economy of the subcontinent began lagging that of the United States. If you have the entire India under your rule and you have the military-strategic vision of the then hungry Europeans and Americans, you can basically make India a superpower.
What the game lacks perhaps, is it is missing an extra level of court intrigue/betrayals/factionalism etc which is really what allowed for the British to establish themselves in India (not technological advancement).

Historically the Marathas were all set to take control of the entire subcontinent in the mid 1700s, read the article on Third Battle of Panipat on wiki to find out what I mean.

To be honest, I agree with BharatRakshak. For me, the native indian amercian nations are really overpowered for me. Prussia is way too overpowered both in ETW and NTW.

[fodder86]

Maratha is not really overpowered. The economy of the Indian subcontinent was historically very rich and it wasn't until late 1800s (already a good century under British colonization and wealth being sucked out) that the economy of the subcontinent began lagging that of the United States. If you have the entire India under your rule and you have the military-strategic vision of the then hungry Europeans and Americans, you can basically make India a superpower.
What the game lacks perhaps, is it is missing an extra level of court intrigue/betrayals/factionalism etc which is really what allowed for the British to establish themselves in India (not technological advancement).

Historically the Marathas were all set to take control of the entire subcontinent in the mid 1700s, read the article on Third Battle of Panipat on wiki to find out what I mean.

Man Shogun is so limited and Napoleon lacks a good world domination mode that I keep playing Empire and forgetting how stupid the balance around Maratha is. Look. No matter what happened with Panipat or the Mughals or the British, the Marathas were not going to project force outside the Indian subcontinent. The forces that drove the west to compete, explore and colonize just weren't present in India, yet left to its own self in ETW, Maratha will eventually dominate the world nearly every time. Worse, no one from Europe ever ends up doing anything in India unless its the player. Game = ruined.

I need to find a decent MOD. I swear that it just seems like Indian developers with an inferiority complex ruined this game. Woulda, coulda, shoulda doesn't mean anything. I bought this game to play something that would end up pretty close to historical lines and let me wear different hats to see how I could affect the results. I didn't buy the game so that some developer could rewrite history based upon some BS about alleged Indian capabilities that never existed. Blame it on leaders or generals or luck. Doesn't matter. Maratha is totally out of hand in ETW and it does make the game less enjoyable...

[Fisherking]

Honestly the game did not start out that way. In the earlier versions of the game sometimes the Moguls won. Seldom did you see either Indian faction leaving the subcontinent. Sometimes other factions would invade overland but never by sea.

It was mostly cries from others that prompted much of the rebalance that gave us Maratha the World Conqueror. People wanted a more aggressive AI and they got it.

[dge1]

I absolutely hate Maratha. As mentioned they become ogres after a patch fix. I have played a couple of thousand hours of Empire and four out of five of my campaigns end up in India fighting them. It is nuts.

In all that time they have only been taken out by someone else four times I think. The Brits at least once, the Moguls twice and the Dutch once.

I hate 'em!

[jaspritsingh]

I dont think Maratha is over powered. Aggressive yes overpower .. Hell No ...Its just that you have them over a rich continent. They have the money so they have the power. Their troops are actually less powerful than Europeans.

I am playing my H/H campaign as Britain. Year is around 1720. I have one territory in India - Bengal. Poor Bastards keep on smashing army after army at me and lose. Hell its so bad they forgot finishing the Mughals. Am just trying raise enough funds so that I can raise a full stack to take Hindustan. Then I ll create lots of colleges there and let them have it back.

[edyzmedieval]

Maratha is still slightly overpowered but...

If you prop up Mughal with cash, alliances and ESPECIALLY technology, they will be kept in check and even defeated.

[edyzmedieval]

Still overpowered. In a recent campaign they took half of America even.