Casse Rivals- A proposition

[Brennus]

Dear All,
Normally I would post this in the possible factions thread but i have noticed that such propositions usually dissapear beneath a tide of posts dismissing such ideas and once again shouting "Pergamon for a faction" or "Syracuse should be included" so I have posted it here.

In the past I have suggested the inclusion of another British tribe to make the Casse campaign slightly less monotonous (constant battles against the Eleutheroi can become tiring) and prompt the Casse to expand when being played by the AI. Usually such suggestions are dismissed by people saying there is not enough evidence for another British tribe (until the Roman invasion of 43AD we hear almost nothing of the British isles and thus have little information on the society of the Brigantes, Caledones or other large tribal confederations). I have also noticed that few people seem to believe that a Belgae faction could be included again because of lack of information.

I propose the inclusion of the Atrebates as a faction. Now before people start ripping this thread apart here are my reasons for proposing the Atrebates:

1. The Atrebates would requrie little further research as both they and the Casse belonged to the Ayesford-Swarling culture (A Belgic or Belgic influenced form of La Tene culture found in South East Britain).

2. Based on late Numismatic evidence we know that rough extent of Atrebatian territory (although this would neccesitate the creation of a new province to represent this territory).

3. Historically we know that the Casse and Atrebates were often at war, thus prompting an AI Atrebates or Casse faction to start expanding.

4. Two individuals, Diviacus of the Suessiones (c. 100BC) and Commius of the Atrebates (52BC) both ruled the Atrebates and parts of Belgica. Thus the Atrebates could be a trans-channel faction, this would make an Atrebatian campaign both interesting and prevent an Atrebates faction from becoming simply a carbon copy of the Casse.

Please let me know what the rest of you think.

[anubis88]

I'm sorry, but this seems to me like an extreme longshot. I do believe that other factions deserve the spot, more than another british tribe.

Also, there has been a lot of debate about the Casse being in the game in the first place, so i really don't see another faction up there

[Moros]

The atrebates indeed appear to have ruled land on both sides of the english channel. However it seems that the Belgae were still on their way to Belgica at our startdate, they didn't yet settle in the lands they'd live in during Caesars time.

[ziegenpeter]

And this rivalry would be very quickly over since two one-settlement factions starting next to each others would lead to a soon death of one of these factions, I guess

[seienchin]

Having the Casse in the Game is in my opinion quite far stretched so why not having another faction in britain?
As long as it is no goidilic faction with only heavy armoured elite units.

[bobbin]

Having the Casse in the Game is in my opinion quite far stretched so why not having another faction in britain?

Mainly because there are numerous other potential factions that are better candidates.

[Ludens]

Kudos to Brennus for researching an alternative Briton faction, rather than throwing out the Caledonians again.

I am not convinced, though. "Stopping the expansions of another faction" is a poor reason for spending a faction slot. There's other ways of doing that. Also, if they start out at war, you are most likely merely delaying the problem until one of them beats the other. Lastly, faction expansion is probably going to be different in EB2 because the A.I. is programmed differently.