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Thread: Casse Rivals- A proposition
oudysseos 23:36 01-21-2010
Originally Posted by Brennus:
What about the Arras culture of the Parisi in Yorkshire? Does anyone know how early that culture is? Again that would be relatively easy to research as the Parisi of Gaul would have had a culture very similar to the Averni and Aedui already present. The only problem is that, unlike the Casse, the Parisi were not major political players in Iron Age Briton (at least according to the few hisotrical records we have).
That's it in a nutshell: the Parisoi and other tribes in the Northumberland/Vale of Pickering area had a distinct archaeological culture from at least 400 BCE: but there is no evidence that they became a major regional power. This makes them somewhat less attractive prospects as factions. The Brigantes were a major regional power, but this seems likely to have happened only after the Roman invasion- there is not much in the record that we can tie to the Brigantes in the 3rd century BCE.

That's the major challenge with British factions: there is a lot of information from the Middle Iron Age but no history: the earliest British individual known to us is Cassivellaunus in the 50s BCE, more than 200 years after our start date. A lot happened in that time, but we don't know the exact details.

Look, if there were no faction limit (and more importantly, no province limit), I'm pretty sure that we'd end up with two native British factions. As it is, I'm not going to give out any hints, but there is a lot of work that has gone into Britain, and I can't wait to show it to everyone. Patience! We are working away at EB2. If you can skin and/or model, we need you!


BTW, the bible for this subject is Iron Age Communities in Britain by Barry Cunliffe. A less expensive alternative is An Imperial Possession by Mattingly or The Britons by Christopher Snyder. It is a fascinating subject with a lot of very good literature.

Brennus 19:23 01-22-2010
Originally Posted by oudysseos:
Look, if there were no faction limit (and more importantly, no province limit), I'm pretty sure that we'd end up with two native British factions. As it is, I'm not going to give out any hints, but there is a lot of work that has gone into Britain, and I can't wait to show it to everyone. Patience! We are working away at EB2.
Ooooooh I'm as giddy as a schoolgirl

Celtic_Punk 02:05 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by oudysseos:
Look, if there were no faction limit (and more importantly, no province limit), I'm pretty sure that we'd end up with two native British factions. As it is, I'm not going to give out any hints, but there is a lot of work that has gone into Britain, and I can't wait to show it to everyone. Patience! We are working away at EB2.
You can show it all to me. I won't tell! You can trust a fellow Irishman!

oudysseos 16:02 01-28-2010
Originally Posted by Celtic_Punk:
You can show it all to me. I won't tell! You can trust a fellow Irishman!
Aren't you from Cork? Hardly inspires trust in a Dublin man.


Seienchin, it's true that many of the "Barbarian" factions would have more written sources were the game to start later, but the later we start, the more entrenched Roman supremacy would already be- and many of the Hellenistic factions would fade out. It's all about balance, and 272 BCE is one of the latest dates that we can posit a plausible alternate history. The death of Pyrrhus ended any chance of a Hellenistic Kingdom expanding into the Western Medd.

oudysseos 05:28 01-29-2010
Check this out.

moonburn 13:45 01-29-2010
and before the brigantes there´s still alot to be discussed around sicily and massilia since we can now subdivide regions to express that there might a leading city but she wasn´t totally in control of the region wich ofc gives the western greeks a fair chance to show up and fight their regional power batles

also the chatti haven´t been rulled out yet and i still believe that a belgic faction if represented will authomatically clash with the casse (i sure hope so or else the aedui are going in for some serious troubles being caught beteween the arverni and the belgiums wich ofc can be aplyed for the arverni if they are caught beteween the chatti and the aedui or if an alpine faction shows up )

putting in the brigantes imho is giving 2 much importance to a part of the map that won´t bring much into the game

oudysseos 15:11 01-29-2010
Punctuation: it's not just for That.

bobbin 15:16 01-29-2010
Originally Posted by moonburn:
and before the brigantes there´s still alot to be discussed around sicily and massilia since we can now subdivide regions to express that there might a leading city but she wasn´t totally in control of the region wich ofc gives the western greeks a fair chance to show up and fight their regional power batles
Massalia was ruled out by the team a very long time ago.

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