The Geert Wilders trial

[Skullheadhq]

This trial will only increase it's popularity and votes, so why complain?

[Fragony]

This trial will only increase it's popularity and votes, so why complain?

Because they won't play fair and won't keep the debate where it belongs, and the parliament is where that is. They will use every trick at their disposal to be able to keep doing nothing. They did the same thing with Fortuyn, this has nothing to do with ideas on how to run a country but with a sick and tired political elite caught in their own game fighting for their existence by any means necesary.

If "having your heart at the right place" includes a ruthless lust for power and an inexplicable hatred for people of a different background, then I respectfully decline.

As long as lefties feel the need to cater every backward aspect of Islam I respectfully decline as well, he is quite popular among immigrants by the way, also muslims coming from hardline islamic society's like Iran. At this moment I don't really care what he kicks as long as he keeps doing it, we need a new government, I feel cornered and I will scratch and bite to get out.

[The Wizard]

I disagree. Most of the people who got the DA to charge him are most certainly not part of the political-bureaucratic elite (PvdA, VVD, CDA) you speak of. Just admit already that Wilders does more than simply be the brave knight fighting the seven-headed hydra of political incompetence called our current cabinet. Which, I might add, he doesn't do in the first place.

[Fragony]

I disagree. Most of the people who got the DA to charge him are most certainly not part of the political-bureaucratic elite (PvdA, VVD, CDA) you speak of.

Amsterdam court took the initiative after the DA dropping charges, only one person can enforce that and that is the minister of justice, that is unheard of and a violation of our trias politica. The people putting the charges are funded by Oxam-Novib who recieve over 200 million euro's of tax money every year, among others. The hydra, yeah.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Amsterdam court took the initiative after the DA dropping charges, only one person can enforce that and that is the minister of justice, that is unheard of and a violation of our trias politica.

No. OM was taken to court over the matter and ordered to prosecute. And I don't know where we got trias politica from here; but in any case the fundamental part of trias politica is that the 3 branches have the power to boss each other around to some extent (it is not merely curtailing each other), otherwise these could do as they pleased. And Dutch law works still differently; with more, much more power to courts than you might notice at first.

The people putting the charges are funded by Oxam-Novib who recieve over 200 million euro's of tax money every year, among others. The hydra, yeah.

Irrelevant; Oxfam-Novib is an international NGO not held to furthering the aims of whichever source their money comes from but held to furthering its own aims with anyone welcome to donate if they sympathize with these aims. The Dutch state expresses its sympathy with these goals by supporting the NGO with money; but that does not and should not mean its political elite can count on ‘favours’ of any kind in return.

[Fragony]

Irrelevant; Oxfam-Novib is an international NGO not held to furthering the aims of whichever source their money comes from but held to furthering its own aims with anyone welcome to donate if they sympathize with these aims. The Dutch state expresses its sympathy with these goals by supporting the NGO with money; but that does not and should not mean its political elite can count on ‘favours’ of any kind in return.

But of course. No, Nederland bekend kleur and the AFA and the IS who are behind the charges, to name a few, are all directly funded via Oxam Novib who get 200 million a year. On top of what they already got. Feel free to check it out.

http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Nieuws/Ne...kent-Kleur.htm

chew before swallowing, these 135 million are just government support by the way, so no you do not have a point, yes some fools give them money.

[The Wizard]

Amsterdam court took the initiative after the DA dropping charges, only one person can enforce that and that is the minister of justice, that is unheard of and a violation of our trias politica. The people putting the charges are funded by Oxam-Novib who recieve over 200 million euro's of tax money every year, among others. The hydra, yeah.

Erm no, the judiciary is independent. I'm not an expert, but if our democracy here works then the Minister of Justice does not decide what a court does and doesn't do.

What Tellos said is right. That the people who are bringing charges are funded by an NGO doesn't really say much about my argument, considering there are apparently plenty of people outside the political elite in our country who take great offense to what this character is saying. And they need money to press charges. Perhaps that should tell you something...

[Fragony]

Erm no, the judiciary is independent. I'm not an expert, but if our democracy here works then the Minister of Justice does not decide what a court does and doesn't do.

What Tellos said is right. That the people who are bringing charges are funded by an NGO doesn't really say much about my argument, considering there are apparently plenty of people outside the political elite in our country who take great offense to what this character is saying. And they need money to press charges. Perhaps that should tell you something...

They don't need any money as they can grow fat on unlimited budgets, they are just protecting their positions and it's going to end, they know that they will have to find a real job to prove their worth, the money is gone it is somewhere in Iceland and there isn't going to be any place for them very soon, they hold on to what they have and we are going to chop of whatever they are holding on to. There is a place and a time for everything, and here happens to be right now. They raped us and now I am going to rape them whenever my pickle allows it, c'est ca, had their warning a few years back and he is dead so now survival is key and I am going to hurt just about everything when I can even when it is irrational. If I have to be sorry, I forgot how to be sorry. Sick of this, a 12 year old girl being hit by a car by these pests.

I am sick of this mindless cruelty towards people who can't defend their selves, the old, the sick, the disabled. All they see is an easy target that is easy to rob.

[Hax]

I am sick of this mindless cruelty towards people who can't defend their selves, the old, the sick, the disabled. All they see is an easy target that is easy to rob.

This isn't related to Islam. This is related to cultural problems. Or does mr. Wilders seriously believe Muslims in Turkey, Syria, and Morocco are the same?

Get real, please.

[The Wizard]

They don't need any money as they can grow fat on unlimited budgets, they are just protecting their positions and it's going to end, they know that they will have to find a real job to prove their worth, the money is gone it is somewhere in Iceland and there isn't going to be any place for them very soon, they hold on to what they have and we are going to chop of whatever they are holding on to. There is a place and a time for everything, and here happens to be right now. They raped us and now I am going to rape them whenever my pickle allows it, c'est ca, had their warning a few years back and he is dead so now survival is key and I am going to hurt just about everything when I can even when it is irrational. If I have to be sorry, I forgot how to be sorry. Sick of this, a 12 year old girl being hit by a car by these pests.

I am sick of this mindless cruelty towards people who can't defend their selves, the old, the sick, the disabled. All they see is an easy target that is easy to rob.

This is ridiculous. You extrapolate individual cases to a mindless mass of savages you term "them" and by which you mean "immigrants and those of immigrant descent" in this country. That is exactly why your fearless leader is on trial now. It is discriminatory, it is uncalled for, it is disgusting and it does not belong in the twenty-first century.

[Andres]

Can't they drop the charges if he promises to change his haircut?

It's horrible.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Can't they drop the charges if he promises to change his haircut?

Didn't you hear? Wilders stopped dyeing his hair.

[Fragony]

[Ser Clegane]

Hmmm...

[Louis VI the Fat]

Wilders must die his hair blond because....he must disguise he is of Indonesian heritage.


Yes, it's true. Like (my second Godwin in two posts!) the more a Nazi looked Central-European / Jewish, the louder they squeeked about Blond Superhumans and 'foreign elements' or alien blood.

Wilders hates Muslims because he blames them for the misery of his family, which lost out in Indonesia (the world's largest Islamic country, supressed by generations of his family). He is on a personal crusade to avenge his family and to psychologically 'purge' himself of his own foreign blood.


Wilders should not be in politics, nor stand before a judge. He should be brought before a shrink to help him cope with his mixed-race identity problems.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

According to anthropologist Lizzy van Leeuwen, writing in the weekly De Groene Amsterdammer, populist politician and patriot Geert Wilders is not quite as Dutch as he seems. Her researches reveal that he is descended from a Jewish-Indonesian family by the name of Meijer. Nor did his grandfather serve as a soldier in the Dutch East Indies, as Wilders claims. He was a civil servant who was sacked in 1934 while on leave with his family in the Netherlands and could not afford to return. Van Leeuwen also says that Wilders’ iconic hair is, in fact, bleached ‘to disguise his origins’.

http://www.thehagueonline.com/headli...nesian-descent

[CrossLOPER]

I love how everyone keeps using this image. I'm really glad you like it, Frag.

[Fragony]

Also have our president for....... I dunno