Magna Mundi: Standalone Game

[Cecil XIX]

Ubik and co. are developing their next version of Magna Mundi, a stand alone game that runs independent of EU3.

This could be the perfect game for me.

[TinCow]

I've seen this coming for a while... Ubik's not good at subtlety. I'm curious to see what the game looks like, since in order to make any money off the thing they'd have to make a lot of changes above and beyond MMP2. No one will pay for a game that's the same as a free mod.

[seireikhaan]

Eh. Magna Mundi has its plusses, but I think its got as many negatives. In too many cases, gameplay is too restricted. I appreciate a sense of historical accuracy, which certainly doesn't have enough attention in vanilla, but in some occasions, I like not being bent into a corner of where I'm supposed to go. Bit less re-play value, to be honest.

The forums aren't terribly nice either.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I haven't tried it, but from what I've heard in the mod it's almost oppressively hard to change the course of your nation, with some things designed just to punish you for trying to change things. Is that correct?

After all, the reason I play EU3 is to change history. Though clearly MM has a lot of enthusiastic supporters.

CR

[TinCow]

I haven't tried it, but from what I've heard in the mod it's almost oppressively hard to change the course of your nation, with some things designed just to punish you for trying to change things. Is that correct?

Yes and no. Generally, the point of Magna Mundi is to make the in-game alternate history plausible. The less realistic a goal was historically, the harder it will be to accomplish in MM. You'll never be able to conquer the world or convert all of Europe to Islam. However, you can unite Italy, create a powerful, hereditary Holy Roman Emperor, restore the Byzantine Empire, turn Sweden into a major colonial power, etc. If your goal is something that was historically plausible if different choices had been made and different events occurred at various points throughout history, you can probably achieve it in MM. If your goal is total fantasy without any basis in reality, it will probably be impossible in MM.

[ubik]

Greetings all.

I am glad to anwer all questions you have about Magna Mundi, the game here.

Just to dismiss two misconceptions:

- Magna Mundi is *not* oppresively hard. It is only hard if you play the game like you were playing vanilla. It is not vanilla anymore and the player, while wielding much more power in his hands, will be hold responsible for poor decision making and overt greed.

- Magna Mundi does not make it unbelievably dificult to change the course of a nation. If one takes his time to read *any* Magna Mundi AAR, he can reach this conclusion immediately.

[CountArach]

I haven't tried it, but from what I've heard in the mod it's almost oppressively hard to change the course of your nation, with some things designed just to punish you for trying to change things. Is that correct?

It is all a matter of timing. If your nation's conditions are ripe for change then your country can change without much damage being done. Trying to radically alter the very fabric of your nation (such as the National Ideas) is always going to hurt, simply because people won't stand for it. However, if you have a very strong King/President and a high stability, it hsould be possible without annoying too many people. The entire game, in my mind, is about setting up for changes that you want to make in the future and thinking about where you want to be 50 years from now.

Oh, and thanks for joining us Ubik! Congrats on the game and I will be pre-ordering as soon as I can.

[Meneldil]

Nice to see Ubik here.

(though I agree that the game is unnecessarily hard and stacked against the player. Must be because I suck at the game :()