Swords and D20's Minimafia: The City of Doors [Concluded]

**Cultured Drizzt fan** · 02-11-2010, 21:48

Originally Posted by Diamondeye

I wouldn't want it otherwise.

CDf, I'm sorry if it sounds like a complaint, but as you see, ATPG easily saw through my fake PM provided by you. I don't want to claim that this is the reason for my loss, because it probably isn't, just direct your attention to it for future games

You had a fully formed role PM exactly like everyone elses. I am not sure what else I can do in the PM department.

He only saw through it because he is quite frankly a god.

**Diamondeye** · 02-11-2010, 21:51

Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan

You had a fully formed role PM exactly like everyone elses. I am not sure what else I can do in the PM department.

He only saw through it because he is quite frankly a god.

Hmm. Name change "AskThePizzaGod"?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 02-11-2010, 21:53

The Bartender
Alignment: Neutral. NPC. Townie
Level: 4th level Expert

Nine hells…… These PC’s are going to be the end of you, you can already tell. Honestly, you have years without a bar fight and are having a wonderful profit margin, and BAM, pc’s pop out of nowhere and bring with them a ton of trouble. Honestly, how is a man supposed to make a honets living when he has to deal with PC’s? Ahh well, live and let live you always say, no reason to cry over spilt milk. All you can do is simply help this bunch clean up the mess they have set in motion, and stop this wraith. Haley was it?

Abilities:
Vote: self explanatory
Barman: During the night phase you can choose one person to investigate and find their alignment. By selling them drinks and creating a proxy lie detector you can learn all sorts of things!

Victory Conditions: Get one you get a minor victory, two you get a major victory
1. Get rid of these strange Creatures threatening to destroy your bar! Eliminate all anti town roles.
2. Live through this horrible experience…

Now see, there's nothing quite obvious about the role which is a blatant lie. It looks real.

Starting point for my criticism of it: I'm a detective and he's claiming to be one.

Fair enough.

However, in a game this small, a bad detective would almost be game-breaking. That's like having a third mafioso.

So if one of us is the bad detective, which one? I scan the roleblocker and he's innocent. A guilty roleblocker? Maybe, but that would mean he's also not killing, and a roleblocker is a difficult thing to fake.

Plus, I have a higher experience level and I'm a PC.

(you're a Mac)

So, if anyone gets a true result it should be me.

My investigation success is based on my level. His doesn't say that.

Now I am starting to get suspicious. His investigation is better than mine? Unless it's a reverse detective I don't see why his would be more "accurate" than mine. He'd have to get 100% backwards results to make it even remotely fair, and again, a reverse detective isn't helpful here in the slightest. They usually make mistakes and accuse the wrong person.

Diamondeye also never comes forward with a guilty result on anyone. Even more curious.

A wraith letting it slip that they are a wraith due to alcohol?

I don't think so.

So, we have a lower-level neutral non-player-character with a skill that I also have, and his seems to be more effective than mine, or a totally game-breaking reverse detective. Why would I be a worse detective than him? Why two detectives?

Haley is after Roy the Fighter.

Having an investigator on the mafia's team would help them locate me. This is why I claimed publicly of being Jules the Swashbuckler, so they would scan someone with tighter lips. Loose lips sink ships, but not if they are spreading misinformation.

So, in all these circumstances, Diamondeye's role led me to believe he was total scum. After revealing his fake role to me, I immediately accused him and suggested he was guilty. Only after interrogating him and feeling bad for him, and noting how dangerous a false lynch could be, did I relent.

And a false lynch was indeed dangerous. I made the bad call, but after arriving at the right conclusion and giving in to my being a big softy.