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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotseat_User View Post
    uhhm has anybody an idea why Belenos has the oiLugos name of the Averni-Verrix-family and is of 'Osi' orgin? Is he adopted? or should i ask a Averni-team-member? just to get some story behind him for the start.
    I don't know, either. Sounds like adoption, but that's a deaf man's guess.

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    and fouthermore... he is govenor of Viennos at gamestart - can I count that as given office by the tribes of that region? I think that's a point we have to discuss.
    Not automatically, no. The tribe that owns Viennos will first decide who of them will be the Vollorix, and then make up their own ranks within that tribe - as well as who governs that settlement, and how you'll decide who will govern any other settlements you might later acquire.

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    *edit* hehe just checked the list. only the char of Shylence is from the Allobrogne/Caturige tribes ... and as my guy is current Vollorix of these tribes - unknown for what matter - he has a good chance of holding this position. NICE. anyway back to topic. when will we start?
    As I said above, no Vollorix has been decided at this moment; actually, besides the Verrix and Vollorix of the Arverni tribe (me! ), no position has been decided yet.

    Which reminds me: we should divide people up in tribes now. Give me a second and I will do it.

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    Here are the tribes. Since the only one who requested a specific tribe was Merlinus, all requests were granted.

    Arverni (Gergovia)
    Verrix: The Celtic Viking
    MerlinusCDXX
    HunGeneral

    Sequani (Vesontio)
    Vollorix: ?
    Celtic_Punk
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    Shylence

    Allobroges (Viennos)
    Vollorix: ?
    Hotseat_User
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    well - for the start I think it is best Belenos is counted to the Caturige/Allobrognes but isn't he out of this to some point? *he wants Osi brothers to ride with* :clap2:
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    No, he's not. Regardless of his origins, he has aligned himself with the Arverni confederation (otherwise he wouldn't be there), of which the Osi do not belong, so you have to be part of one of these options. If Osi lands are later conquered, you can attempt to create a new tribe, though IMO we're too few to have more than 3 tribes. Having many with only 1-2 members is far from optimal IMO.

    (Btw, don't take this post the wrong way. You can roleplay him however you want, even to the point of having him as a spy for the Osi tribe or something like that. What I'm saying is that officially he's a part of the Arverni confederacy while the Osi are not, and that's something you should adjust to.)
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    I have no objectin with the tribe I got into. So its fine with me.
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    Do you guys think 3 tribes are too many, though? I have a feeling that it is, seeing as we're only 9 players. My reasoning is that one of the central parts of the game is the competition for positions and ranks, and with only 3 people/tribe I fear there won't be much of that. If we lessened it to two tribes (preferably the Arverni and Sequani, as they were - by my understanding - the historically strongest ones) we'd have one with 5 (pref. Arverni, since they were the stronger) and the other 4.

    Doing so would increase the internal competition and make tribal ranks more meaningful, which is why I personally support it - at least until we get more players.
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    hey, TCV the point with less tribes for more competition seems better from my point of view.

    And for the Osi-thingy... Clear that he is bound to the Arverni Tribe - I just enjoyed a migration campaign to an early rebelled Ankyra around this guy so I'm kinda going with my imaginations :-) apart from that there are gamerules and his hail for the Verrix.

    I think he has to find his roots for some reason but I have already two Ideas to roleplay that. ( you'll maybe get a PM for that later )

    defenitly looking forward to this
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    I agree two tribes is fine for now, could be fun for rping with the Arverni lording it over the other a la TCV in every other ga.... I mean showing the lesser tribe the majesty of their overlordship. More competition for roles is better and as the game progresses other tribes could be formed.
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    So, since there's been no objection, I'll just move this on as accepted. We should alter the rules according to this, so that new Verrixes don't have to come from the Vollorixes. Or is choosing between just 2 guys fine?

    Anyway, below are the new tribes. As before, state your opinion if you have one.

    Arverni (Gergovia (Cap), Viennos))
    Verrix: The Celtic Viking
    MerlinusCDXX
    HunGeneral
    Hotseat_User
    Shylence

    Sequani (Vesontio)
    Vollorix: ?
    Celtic_Punk
    Cultured Drizzt fan
    johnhughthom
    /Bean\

    (I think I'm going to regret putting CP and Bean both in the other tribe if this list stands... )
    Last edited by The Celtic Viking; 02-17-2010 at 21:53. Reason: Misspellt your name, john. I always do. :|

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    So are the Sequani members going to vote for their Vollorix? If so Vote: CDf

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    @TCV: Yes. Yes you are...

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    @ TCV - I think it's better if all members are allowed to vote the Verrix. On the other hand I think that the Volorix'es should have more impact on the decission - maybe their votes count twice?

    Uhmm and I think that we should just hold elections for the crown-prince position and the Verrix should be elected for lifetime. He could abadon his duty but in that case the heir would be going to be new Verrix. This is the Arverni-faction - they elected a GOD-King so there shouldn't be a vote on his position directly. And the elections of this heir-position should be holded if say half of the Chiefs with electionrights demand it. (But also in this case - a Vollorix vote should count double.)


    errr...grammar anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotseat_User View Post
    @ TCV - I think it's better if all members are allowed to vote the Verrix. On the other hand I think that the Volorix'es should have more impact on the decission - maybe their votes count twice?
    Well, yes, it can't really just be the Vollorixes, because with only two... I do agree all should get to vote.

    The Vollorixes do have more influence, though. That is already in there (see "confederate influence").

    Quote Originally Posted by Hotseat_User View Post
    Uhmm and I think that we should just hold elections for the crown-prince position and the Verrix should be elected for lifetime. He could abadon his duty but in that case the heir would be going to be new Verrix. This is the Arverni-faction - they elected a GOD-King so there shouldn't be a vote on his position directly.
    You should be careful here - god-king or not, this does not disqualify the possibility of an election. In fact, if the EB description is to be trusted, that's actually exactly what they did it. The god was revealed through the vote.

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    And the elections of this heir-position should be holded if say half of the Chiefs with electionrights demand it. (But also in this case - a Vollorix vote should count double.)
    I'm not sure I understand what you're proposing here. Have I understood you correctly if I take this as "if half the chiefs who are eligible for the position demands that the elections be halted, they will"? If so, to what end? What purpose would doing so serve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    I'm not sure I understand what you're proposing here. Have I understood you correctly if I take this as "if half the chiefs who are eligible for the position demands that the elections be halted, they will"? If so, to what end? What purpose would doing so serve?
    I think you got my point. It's kinda like as with petitions. I think it's not good if only one chief needs to ask for an election. That will happen contineously. So one should need supporters for his proposal for re-elections first.

    and the god-thingy - I may misread the faction-discriptions
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    Oh, but the way the game is setup is that the Verrix will only be elected when the old one dies. You don't call for an election... it calls you.

    (Yes, I had to use that cliché. It's in the rules.)

    There are no re-elections, either. Once the Verrix is elected, he's set for life.
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    But we can't do that within the confines of the RTW engine, unless we are ignoring the in game faction leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    But we can't do that within the confines of the RTW engine, unless we are ignoring the in game faction leader.
    Reload, set heir, kill Verrix? That's how Ibn was going to do it, and if he can, then I will not allow CDf to fail doing the same!

    But I suppose we can remove the IG FL thing, too, or hold regular votes, or do as Hotseat suggested and have elections called. If so, we'd have to set limits to that; like, only 1 election/2 regular councils, and you can only call on one vote/rule-span (i.e., if my character is the Verrix and Hotseat calls for a vote, then he has to wait for my character to die and for someone to succeed me before he can call on one again). Who can call them should be limited, too.

    Edit: I might add, though, that I'm mostly in favour of just removing the IG FL thing.
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    InGame FactionLeader right? I think it's the easiest way, too. Can we then - as Leader and Heir are given bonus traits ingame - implement some trait-thingy or a retinue for the Vollorixes and so? But to be honest - I've no plan how to do it as you may know.
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    Well, if someone here knows how to do it, that would be awesome. I, myself, don't know how, and if someone else does, it has to be saved game compatible, or we'd lose all the RGBs.

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    I won't be a general, but I guess I'll start off with the Sequani tribe since it has fewer people.

    While we wait, have another warmup drawing!



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    Epic




    Also, if we are voting towards chiefs I have to put my own vote towards CP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotseat_User View Post
    InGame FactionLeader right? I think it's the easiest way, too. Can we then - as Leader and Heir are given bonus traits ingame - implement some trait-thingy or a retinue for the Vollorixes and so? But to be honest - I've no plan how to do it as you may know.
    Trait is better option since these can be removed but ancillaries/retinues can't.
    Ancillaries can be moved from one character to another but that could become too timeconsuming in the later stages of the game(trust me.. I know).
    You can also remove any bonuses that FL or FH traits could give to characters.

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    dude, that drawing just floored me.
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    yep - it's definitly nice! with this, Belenos has even more similarties to me than before
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    OK All present men have chosen their avatars? Lets get this thing actually started. I've been back for almost a week, thought we were only waiting on me :D
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    We were. Now we're waiting for you to start the threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    We were. Now we're waiting for you to start the threads.
    gah, give me the rest of the day and the threads will be up....

    I have a lot I need to do in the next 7 hours, but I can squeeze it in.
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    Tell me if I mess something up.
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    *sigh* I misspelled Confederate. I will have to ask tincow to change that.


    Probably messed up a lot more than that. Tell me where and I will do my best to keep fixing stuff.


    just tell me if I need to do something else. Sorry for any mistakes.
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