Just finished my first play through now, I wont use any spoiler tags as well, I'll include no spoilers.
I personally loved everything about it, it took what ME1 had and made it go further as well as tweaking some of the other faults with the first one. Only major gripe is the whole paragon and renegade system I still feel isn't 100% good. I mean, essentially, for 100% success in the suicide mission 100% paragon or renegade is needed to secure the loyalty of all your crew. Those who have completed the game will know what I mean when I say certain "confrontations". Anyway, 100% paragon or renegade is needed to have a desirable outcome from such "confrontations". Most are aware it isn't as clear cut as that. Maybe I want my Shepherd to be a bit of both, a nice guy who isn't afraid to bust some balls if he needs to. Under the current system this isn't really possible if you want to "win the game".
I think I'll finish of my other save game from this play through tomorrow just to secure my other love interest. I'm curious to see if Bioware will be good on their word that a ME1 love interest will have a more dominant role in ME3. I hope so seeming their apearences in this one were pretty terrible..
Last edited by tibilicus; 02-12-2010 at 03:23.
I played as a female Shepard and I think the romance options for her were better in ME2 than in ME1. Personally I hope there's an option to continue with the ME2 romance the player doesn't feel like going back to the ME1 love interest.
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From what I can see of the story in the game and the literature outside the game Liara is the cannon romance interest Ashley is really only included for renegades and should really always be left on Virmire for a paragon.
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
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Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
I kind of disagree with that. For one you'll have to point out the literature you're referring to.....Secondly, Ashley/Kaiden are the canon romances. Liara is the second choice regardless of gender. Like Morrigan/Alistair in Dragon Age and Leliana regardless of gender.
Furthermore on starting a new ME2 game (not importing an ME1 save that is), by default for a male Shepard, Ashley is dead and for a female Shepard, Kaiden is dead. Which I think is done so that the player can check out the new romance options in the game.
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Well the literature I mentioned came with my edition of the game it is a comic called Mass Effect Redemption. Liara is searching for Shepards body and the collectors and illusive man are also the feel of the story is Liara is the love interest so far anyway to my mind.
I accept your reasoning if you had no romance and you generate a character without a save but Kaidan and Ashley really cannot be cannon because they do not both survive one has to die in ME1. The story needs a person who survives regardless hence Liara this game was always meant to have consequences on the next one so my money is on that I am right but it is only a game and doest really affect the playing experience too much
The game will start with liara on the normandy if you saved that romance and she has way more dialouge in the game with you.
They slew him with poison afaid to meet him with the steel
a gallant son of eireann was Owen Roe o'Neill.
Internet is a bad place for info Gaelic Cowboy
I'm just wondering, if you don't import a save then is there still a picture on the desk in Shepards room or is it simply absent?
I don't think you can call it Canon either way. The point about Mass effect is there is no real canon, the games are designed so you choose what is canon and what isn't canon. If Liara is meant to be the main love interest in the game then it doesn't really show over the other choices. Sure, Ashely/kaiden are fairly cold when you see them on Horizon but the way Liara is written is just as bad. She basically doesn't acknowledge you as a love interest and talks to you like your one of her employees.
She's an Asari too, meaning that because her lifespan is so huge, 2 years should be nothing to her. The way in which Asari comprehend time, apparently, is vastly different from the way humans comprehend it. 2 years should only feel like months to her, if not less.
Oh well, hopefully we will find out in ME3.
Right, I'm err....sorry I remembered it wrongly Actually Ashley survives for the male Shepard and Kaiden for the female, by default when not importing a save that is......
No idea about the picture, I'd read the info in the wiki. Never did start a new game myself.
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So while playing the endgame sequence using old saves for like the 10th time, two things struck me;
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Priceless!
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Finished my second playthrough of Mass Effect 2
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I saw a post that's supposedly copied from a post one of the ME2 team made and then deleted. It's material cut from the game, an entire alternate beginning. I don't recommend you read it unless you've already completed the game.
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If that's true then ARGH!! So much better than what we actually got in the game! I had wondered why Legion featured so prominently in the early publicity material.
And on Liara from the above
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Frogbeastegg's Guide to Total War: Shogun II. Please note that the guide is not up-to-date for the latest patch.
In reference to Legion's early story;
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The horizon is nothing save the limit of our sight.
Frogbeastegg's Guide to Total War: Shogun II. Please note that the guide is not up-to-date for the latest patch.
Frogbeastegg's Guide to Total War: Shogun II. Please note that the guide is not up-to-date for the latest patch.
Hmm, I did all of that, paragon options included. I got the right answer on the second quest as well. Wonder why I didn't get the line?
As reasons go, the one Bioware gave her is awful.
Frogbeastegg's Guide to Total War: Shogun II. Please note that the guide is not up-to-date for the latest patch.
Ah! That video helps a lot. When I chose that conversation option she didn't stand up like she does in the video - she got caught on the desk and the whole scene jammed while the model tried to free itself from the obstruction, which it eventually managed to do. When the audio started I missed nearly all of that. I only got the last couple of lines and thought that the entire thing was related to the dead friend; there was nothing to indicate that nearly the entire conversation had been skipped over.
It's not the only conversation bug I ran into.
Frogbeastegg's Guide to Total War: Shogun II. Please note that the guide is not up-to-date for the latest patch.
I have now finished playing the game through for the 5th time with one of my many ME1 Shepard characters and my opinion is that this game is near perfect! It's certainly the best game I have played in a long time. Taken together with the first game it's a serious contender for best game EVAR!
I think a few people have massively over criticised a few minor flaws. I love the new characters but find Jacob a little dull and something about jack irks me. My favourite new character is Legion(btw, if you havnt done it already, do the iff mission before recruiting Tali, then take Legion with you to find her. Once her loyalty mission activates take Legion aboard the migrant fleet with you).
Anyways, doing Insanity with my ME1 level 60 renegade soldier now and thoroughly enjoying the challenge.
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