Dear Mods/Admins

[TosaInu]

Okay, minor apology. I posted this comment as a copy of one I posted a while back in the tavern, and I was failry stressed when I originally posted it, so sorry for any ad hominem attacks.. But let's set some things straight.

Tosa, the reason why I wasn't moderating, was because I was banned.

One hour told me enough in this case.

You know as well as anyone that nominating Meth could only have one result, so why did you do nominate him?

Give it a chance? Just like the whole social group is given another chance? Maybe I know nothing and I should ask anyone what to do? Delete the social group Tavern for good? 50 calls are enough to convince me (I initially said 10, but 50 gives your more chance to survive).

Another thing:

Having powers does not make them rights. Saying that an Admin compromising a members account is fine, but if a member does it to another member they are permab& looks, from some angles, to have a slightest tint of hipocricy.

I don't say it's right. The point is that administrators (with any software) can do different things than a normal member. I don't have to hack your account to revoke social group leadership.

The reason I was banned was, as I explained when i deleted your post, because you were being deliberately irritating.

Deliberately irritating.. yes I'm bored here. Nothing to do.

We were fully aware that we needed to follow the rules, which we were doing, so posting that had no reason other than to annoy us.

If only that was true, then I would never have to do anything and there would be no need for moderators.

But seriously; 50 people. I need advice please. Close the group or leave it open?

[Skullheadhq]

What about leaving it open?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Deliberately irritating.. yes I'm bored here. Nothing to do.

I certainly lol'ed.


As for the poll, Tosa: "Should you close the group or leave it open"- If you were going to poll, just ask the moderators. The rest of us don't spend our free time moderating the forums, so it's not our place to say how this forum gets moderated. And that's if you take a poll. I'm sure the green gods have already weighed in on the matter, and in the end the decision is yours.

As for the overall drama, I don't see where it comes from. The .org is not our house, it belongs to someone else and they make the rules. There's no free speech here. However, this is a place where you can apparently post accusatory things, even insulting things, toward the mods and even the Admin, and not get tossed out in the cold forever immediately. I think that's amazing, and shows the tolerance involved on the part of these apparent "Hitler" wannabes (also lol'ed). The amount of freedom given here is also amazing, and the fact that there are warning points, and temporary bans, show you that these people are willing to let you back in even after repeatedly breaking the rules.

When a social group is full of rule breaks, I'm impressed that the mods do you the courtesy of sitting here and listening to the grievances and explain their position on why the place was deleted. They certainly have other things on their plate, such as the forum upgrade and moderating everyone's posts, in their free time. If this really were such a bad place, I'm not sure why we all would keep voluntarily coming back. If it were about intentionally irritating or annoying people, I'm not sure why they would allow a second or third tavern, or give warnings before deletion. I understand being upset but the facts don't meet the narrative it seems.

[TosaInu]

As for the poll, Tosa: "Should you close the group or leave it open"- If you were going to poll, just ask the moderators. The rest of us don't spend our free time moderating the forums, so it's not our place to say how this forum gets moderated.