Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
A completely secular state allows freedom of religion, and neither oppresses nor encourages it in any way whatsoever. Of course, secularism is measured in degrees, with certain states being more secular than others. For example, the United States of America, Great Britain, Germany, and Sweden are all secular states, but all have different policies which could be construed as being more or less secular than others in some areas.
I think this is right, and Freedom is a key word. In France Freedom of religion is curtailed quite heavily, and legislation going through the Lords in Britain will curtail religious freedom further here. The problem with not supporting religion in social democracies is that we support non-religious social work, and eschewing social projects backed by religious groups risks the state being anti religious.

This would make it non secular.