Quote Originally Posted by The Wizard View Post
Jesus is a religious prophet. No more, no less. Not accepting his message does not preclude the ability towards doing good.
Never said it did; not a Calvinist. Stop putting words in my mouth; everyone else in this thread agrees this is not what I have said.

As far as Jesus goes, "just a religious prophet" is an oxymoron, particularly when the religion is a massive metaphysical statement about existence.

In the interest of not dragging this thread into an argument without end (is there a god, yada yada etc), I won't react to this.
Only Arrian theology considers Jesus to be less than an equal to the Father. If you want to discuss Christian theology you have to process the concept; you don't have to believe it.

Obviously. How else can you judge them? Or do you have some way to read people's minds? All we have to judge them buy are their actions and their words, and words are a form of action (expressing yourself).
I don't do the judging; an all-seeing God does.

You have intimated that if he rejected the "message of Christ" while knowing of its existence it automatically means he could not have gotten into heaven. Which is pretty nutty in my book.
Why?

Wait, perfection is real? That's news to me!
Well, no in this life for human beings.

Nobody is perfect. But you know damn well Gandhi was a whole lot better than the vast majority of his contemporaries. It's an almost universal consensus amongst almost everybody, save some fringe nutjobs, that he was a good and righteous person.
Perfect is what you need to get into heaven off your own back.