Something I Hate

**Zradha Pahlavan** · 02-09-2010, 22:18

Scythed charioteers and their horses look as though they're really well armored. But in the stats they're unarmored. How does this work? Are they just covered in special paint that looks like armor but isn't?
I can understand that the even with some amount of protection that the chariot would still be vulnerable to missiles and things, as are the elephants, who have some armor if I remember correctly, but I find it hard to believe that all of the armor shown on those men and horses would be so useless that the vehicle would be as vulnerable to enemy weapons as is your average naked celt (Gaesatae do not count as average). They should have an armor value of some kind IMHO.

Maybe they do in a more recent version and my version is just out of date. If so, I'd like to know.

**Jebivjetar** · 02-09-2010, 22:36

Armour: 20

http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.ne...y&category=any

**Cute Wolf** · 02-09-2010, 23:28

I think you miss that with Vanilla Scythed Chariots

in EB (Harmata Draphanephora)
stat_pri_armour 20, 8, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 14, 5, metal

in Vanilla
stat_pri_armour 18, 1, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 1, flesh

**antisocialmunky** · 02-10-2010, 01:34

They might as well be unarmored if you take them out further East -_-'

**Zradha Pahlavan** · 02-12-2010, 20:13

Armour: 20

http://europabarbarorum.heimstatt.ne...y&category=any

Armor not 20.

What version of EB do you have?

**bobbin** · 02-12-2010, 20:47

That sounds like a bug in your game, Ive got EB 1.2 and this is the EDU entry for the Pontic scythed chariots.

Code:

;112
type             eastern chariot scythed
dictionary       eastern_chariot_scythed      ; Scythed Chariots
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy_1
soldier          eastern_chariot_crew, 10, 10, 1
mount            pontic scythed chariot
mount_effect     elephant -4, horse -2
attributes       sea_faring, frighten_foot, can_run_amok, power_charge
formation        7, 9, 15, 15, 2, square
stat_health      1, 2
stat_pri         10, 50, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, slashing, sword, 0 ,1
stat_pri_attr    area, ap, launching
stat_sec         10, 50, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, slashing, sword, 0 ,1
stat_sec_attr    area, ap, launching
stat_pri_armour  20, 8, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  14, 5, metal
stat_heat        3
stat_ground      0, 0, -6, -3
stat_mental      6, impetuous, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 3500, 875, 100, 140, 3500
ownership        carthage

Note the 20 armour for the rider and 14 for the horse.