Roman Group - Serching for a worthy Roman leader competition!!!

[Rahwana]

Searching for a worthy Roman leader... as the temporary dictactor... I decide to held a challenging competition
Well, this link is only for those who allready in with the Roman group... but as no one reply to my thread in the Roman group... I decide to announce this competition here too... (Ludens, please don't kill this thread... This was an invitation to a sportive competition anyway - as I can't get enough time to moderating Roman group because of my mod project, and I want someone who worthy enough to took charge as Roman leader)

If you are support Romans, but not yet a part of the Romans group, you can always join us at
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/group.php?groupid=9
and my inter Roman competition link
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/group...scussionid=481

The winner will be given a full charge of maintaining the Roman group....

Well... errr.... where should I start...

Monday morning (8 February 2010), Gaius Septimus Severus ceded his Faction leader seal suddenly for me...

But I must admit, I didn't have time to regularly visit the discussion here now, let alone moderate them. As some of you may know, I and Cute Wolf (and GSS to some extent), start working in a RTW-BI modification. The Nusantara Total War : Portugese Invasion... and we just recently opened a new forum for developing our mod (run by joint admin, CW and me) http://nu3tara.forumotion.net , so... I won't be able to spend most of my time visiting the org, as I must deal with our modding and research.

But now, I know that the honour of become the leading general of Roman military might is not a cheaply thrown honour... so I decide to host a "Skill Competition", to determine, who are worthy to hold the title of Roman Supreme leader, you can call it consul, but I prefer Military dictactor due to the privilage to kick everyone out of Roma...

Well, for some sense of fairness, and for the best skill in commanding Roman army to be shown, here is the rules:

Type of Competition : Skill contests in commanding Roman Legions...
Enemies : Computers, determined separately in each stage
Platform / Mod used = Vanilla RTW for preeliminary rounds and EB for final rounds --> IF The first preeliminary get close run points, and we must proceed to the second competition...

The judgement is determined by winning points (you must win all the challanges, and with these criteria)
- Winning a battle is required, and by default grant you 1000 points
- The first priority is how much Roman soldiers survive, every lost roman soldiers will bring you penalty of -5 points (so you shouldn't lost too much men) --> Healed casualities are still considered a loss!!!
- The second priority is how much enemy soldiers slain, every slain enemies will give you bonus of +3 points (well, this was done to avoid "suicide kamikaze styled attack" to win the war)
- The proof of your victory MUST be posted as screenshot of your initial formation and the victory screen of each battle (so you have to post two screenshot for each battle), NO CROPPING ALLOWED!!!

The Battle on RTW platform must be held with:
- Vanilla RTW 1.5 EDU, descr_mount and animation (the default one - if you are not modifying your vanilla, that should be no problem)
- Unit scale on "Large" - NO HUGE UNITS or NORMAL UNITS - JUST LARGE

The Battle on EB platform (if held) must be held with:
- The trivial script, using RTW.exe on multiplayer
- Default EB 1.2 EDU, descr_mount, and animation (the default one used at official EB tournament)
- Unit scale on "Large" - NO HUGE UNITS or NORMAL UNITS - JUST LARGE

As I have no means for checking that... I will believe on your honesty

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THE CHALLANGES - play it on custom Battle
All Battles are fought on Medium Battle difficulty with exact compositions of army (just raise money treshold until the costs are fullfilled)

RTW Challanges:

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1) JULII (defensive) vs GAULS

map : Gallic Countryside, winter, morning, clear sky
In this battle, you must lead an outnumbered Roman army to withstand Gallic warriors... quality vs quantity
Army Compositions:
*. JULII
1x Roman Late Bodyguard (1 exp)
2x Roman Cavalry
1x Archer Auxilia
2x Light Auxilia (1 exp)
4x Auxilia
6x LS Legionary Cohort (1 exp) (use first cohort)
*. GAULS
1x Barbarian Late Bodyguard (2 exp)
2x Barbarian Noble Cav (1 exp)
2x Barbarian Cav (1 exp)
3x Barbarian Skirmishers (1 exp)
2x Naked Fanatics (3 exp)
4x Swordsmen (1 exp)
6x Warband

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2) JULII vs SCIPII (defensive)

map : Greek Shore, summer, afternoon, clear sky
In this battle, you must take part in upcoming Roman civil war... against your fellow Romans, now quantity vs quality
Army Compositions:
*. JULII
1x Roman Late Bodyguards (exp 1)
1x LS Legionary First Cohort (3 exp)
8x Early legionary Cohort (exp 1)
2x Archer Auxilia (exp 1)
2x Legionary Cavalry (exp 1)
6x Auxilia (exp 1)
*. SCIPII
1x Roman Late Bodyguards (exp 3)
2x Praetorian Cavalry (exp 2)
2x Archer Auxilia (exp 2)
2x Light Auxilia (exp 2)
3x Urban Cohort (exp 3)
6x Praetorian Cohort (exp 2)

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3) JULII (defensive) vs PARTHIA+EGYPT

map : Cilician Hills, summer, morning, clear sky
Well, this was a nightmare battle for you... as you must command total NOOB Army, against double strength Noob Army well, outnumbered heavily, and a bit outclassed... can you win this challange?
Army Compositions:
*. JULII:
1x Roman Late Bodyguard
2x Roman Cavalry
2x Cavalry Auxilia
3x Archer Auxilia
2x Auxilia
10x LS Legionary Cohort (use first cohort)
*. PARTHIA (Army 2):
1x Eastern Late Bodyguard (exp 1)
4x Cataphracts (exp 1)
2x Persian Cav (exp 1)
3x Eastern Archers (exp 1)
10x Eastern Infantry (exp 2)
* EGYPT (Army 2):
1x Egyptian Cav Bodyguard (exp 3)
4x Egyptian Nile Cav (exp 2)
5x Nile Spearmen (exp 1)
4x Desert Axemen (exp 2)
2x Egyptian Slingers (exp 1)
2x Egyptian Skirmishers (exp 1)
2x Egyptian Heavy Chariot (exp 1)

Well, these 3 challenges are the preeliminary battle, post your 6 screenshot of battle here (better if that resized into 640 x 480 pixels), just to avoid BW killer pics... and after 16 Feb, I shall come again and look who is worthy enough to become the next keeper of the Roman dictactorate seal...

If there was a close run happened (some participants have no more than 400 difference of points from the top leader), then I'll host the second competition on EB platform...

UPDATE:

The Result so far...

First Challanger: spiritusdilutus
Battle 1 : 1000 - (5 * 197) + (3 * 1614) = 4857 points
Battle 2 : 1000 - (5 * 610) + (3 * 1147) = 1391 points
Battle 3 : 1000 - (5 * (301+285)) + (3 * 3016) = 7118 points
Total = 13366 points

well, so anyone that has less than 12966 points won't be considered in the next update

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AND PLEASE : NO ROMAIOKTONOI SPAM IN THIS THREAD!!!!

[Cute Wolf]

Well, sonic just left my home... as this afternoon, were testing our mod's map as well as some coding, and doing several tweak to our new forum.... although I suggest he just throw that maintenance ability for either AP or Macilrille (the two dominant Romaioiphiloi on EB forum), he just said it need a worthy man to take that group maintenance....

So, I also have an interest to see that group maintenance was transfered away from sonic.... BUMP

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but I tought something more evil... if a Romaioktonoi member enter roman group, took that challenge, and become the romaioi leader, does this technically made the Romaioi Barbaroi a vassal of Romaioktonoi ?

[spiritusdilutus]

1st battle:





2nd battle:





3rd battle:

[Rahwana]

good, good, so far... we have one contestants... (although I mean LS Legionary Cohort are "normal" legionary cohort, not the first cohort one... but BTW... I tollerate that, but ANOTHER PEOPLE WILL use LS First Cohort too, for balance's sake)

Another Romans brave enough to take the Challanges?

EDIT:
And Cutewolf : Please... I know that Romaioktonoi are evil thingies, and never expect me to accept any Romaioktonoi member into the Roman group.

[spiritusdilutus]

good, good, so far... we have one contestants... (although I mean LS Legionary Cohort are "normal" legionary cohort, not the first cohort one... but BTW... I tollerate that, but ANOTHER PEOPLE WILL use LS First Cohort too, for balance's sake)

Another Romans brave enough to take the Challanges?

Ups. sorry, I thought LS stood for legion (eagle) standard. XD Guess, I messed it up a bit... :D

[G. Septimus]

well, old mates.................
may u guys see the light.............

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is'nt medium dificulty to easy/??
I could do that against expirienced Macedonians, and Seleucids, u needa make things harder, bad thing is, I can't make any screenshots of my battle Darn CPUs off!!!!

[spiritusdilutus]

is'nt medium dificulty to easy/??
I could do that against expirienced Macedonians, and Seleucids, u needa make things harder, bad thing is, I can't make any screenshots of my battle Darn CPUs off!!!!

Yeah, Gaius is right.. The enemy just stands in the open waiting to be massacred, they barely charged me once..

[Cute Wolf]

Yeah, Gaius is right.. The enemy just stands in the open waiting to be massacred, they barely charged me once..

BTW, as far as I can remember, sonic himself said that this challange was done in "who has higher points" system... and you has 13366... well, the next challanger must kill more or survive more to beat you then :)... it will looks like easy for the first start, but then, that will turns to a hard one when many members are attempt to break the record...

And yeah... if you use normal Lorica Segmenta Cohort (not the first cohort), the first and third battle wouldn't be as easy...

[spiritusdilutus]

BTW, as far as I can remember, sonic himself said that this challange was done in "who has higher points" system... and you has 13366... well, the next challanger must kill more or survive more to beat you then :)... it will looks like easy for the first start, but then, that will turns to a hard one when many members are attempt to break the record...

Good point...

And yeah... if you use normal Lorica Segmenta Cohort (not the first cohort), the first and third battle wouldn't be as easy...

Nah, It wouldn`t make much difference; the AI isn`t making the slightest effort to bump my defence line

[Cute Wolf]

Nah, It wouldn`t make much difference; the AI isn`t making the slightest effort to bump my defence line

I said that because I know, Chariots cause fear, fanatics cause fear, eastern infantry are quite numerous, your legionaries will be fewer (80 men / unit), and take into a vital account... first cohort carry the eagle... a really good morale boost effects to counter fear effects...

[Rahwana]

I said that because I know, Chariots cause fear, fanatics cause fear, eastern infantry are quite numerous, your legionaries will be fewer (80 men / unit), and take into a vital account... first cohort carry the eagle... a really good morale boost effects to counter fear effects...

You talk right, but did you remember that I was the Roman? Stop meddling in our business
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Just kidding

BTW, Wolf said the right tings.... but for the sake of balance, let's just use SpiritusDilutus unit lists

[Jebivjetar]

So you have only one candidate for The Leader Of Roman Group?


(Spirituše: ovo neodoljivo podsjeća na onomadni izbor Sanadera za šefa HDZa, kad nije imao protukandidata. Šala. Ugl izgleda kako ćeš postati prvi Hrvat na čelu legija rimskih )

[Rahwana]

Looks like every Roman had Romaioktonoi counterparts there... and yes, if there was no more challengers until 16 Feb, by default, the Dictactorate seal will be given to our Brave comrade Spiritusdilutus

Well... anyone want to take the challange?

[Skullheadhq]

bump, I'll try later today or else tomorrow.

[spiritusdilutus]

I said that because I know, Chariots cause fear, fanatics cause fear, eastern infantry are quite numerous, your legionaries will be fewer (80 men / unit), and take into a vital account... first cohort carry the eagle... a really good morale boost effects to counter fear effects...

Still wouldn`t make much difference; I stationed my troops on a higher elevation, not far from the red line.. The enemy decided to run up to my forces and by the time they got there, they were already "very tired". Nonetheless, just to make things clear and support my claim, I shall replay the battle with ordinary (80) roman cohort....

So you have only one candidate for The Leader Of Roman Group?


(Spirituše: ovo neodoljivo podsjeća na onomadni izbor Sanadera za šefa HDZa, kad nije imao protukandidata. Šala. Ugl izgleda kako ćeš postati prvi Hrvat na čelu legija rimskih )

XD XD XD Good one my fellow countryman!

[G. Septimus]

Looks like every Roman had Romaioktonoi counterparts there... and yes, if there was no more challengers until 16 Feb, by default, the Dictactorate seal will be given to our Brave comrade Spiritusdilutus

Well... anyone want to take the challange?

hummpph with Normal difficulty????
how could you.................
I'll kick teh sh1t outta Rome someday (duhhh, I started on the far east by now, as AS)

[jirisys]

Here's the first battle:

[vartan]

Wow, Moreno is still active? =) Good battles. Good job Jiri too!

[Fluvius Camillus]

Is it possible to only do the EB battles? This is an EB forum.

~Fluvius

[Finn MacCumhail]

In my opinion, it should be even on-line battles. But is it possible to have Rome vs Rome in EB on-line?

[Fluvius Camillus]

In my opinion, it should be even on-line battles. But is it possible to have Rome vs Rome in EB on-line?

Nope, you can only have the same factions if they are allied.

~Fluvius

[vartan]

In my opinion, it should be even on-line battles. But is it possible to have Rome vs Rome in EB on-line?

You'll need a special build of EB for that.

[Intranetusa]

No matter who wins in Vanilla RTW, everyone still loses... :D

[Skullheadhq]

Scipii vs Brutii vs Julii vs Senate?

[Finn MacCumhail]

May be to make the competition more hard, thrilling and sharp we should do the following. When only 2 persons are left and they will fight with each other, looser will leave the Roman Group forever? It would limit the amount of participates, and somehow RP historical accuracy and civil war.

[Rahwana]

Sorry for my recent absence due to some unintended consequence, because just some days ago, a storm hit bandung and cut most the internet communication due to thunderstrike... well... because only Spiritusdilutus have done all the challange, I will transfer my group leadership to him... congrats...

So at least now... I can doing my work in Nusantara TW, and well... we start to making the models on our own... but due to some inexperiences, we create models that have much distorted faces and limbs...

Ohh... mutant with hands as long as their knees... and disproportional faces...

but don't worry... Cute Wolf will definitely try to repair it because we want to create human wars, not a mutant wars...

Thank you...