So maybe we got it all wrong

**Fragony** · 02-13-2010, 16:22

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=50300

Don't know this site though.

Maybe talking with the Taliban isn't such a bad idea after all.

**CrossLOPER** · 02-13-2010, 17:00

I wouldn't expect any business involving Afghanistan to be clear.

**The Wizard** · 02-13-2010, 20:45

Oh, so he doesn't want to export his madness abroad. Well, I guess that means we should just let the dude chop off hands and stone women in peace, then.

**Centurion1** · 02-13-2010, 20:52

hey a mans house is his castle right. we dont wanna infringe on his privacy rights.

**HoreTore** · 02-13-2010, 20:56

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Oh, so he doesn't want to export his madness abroad. Well, I guess that means we should just let the dude chop off hands and stone women in peace, then.

Originally Posted by Centurion1

hey a mans house is his castle right. we dont wanna infringe on his privacy rights.

You seem to have no problem with human rights abuses anywhere else, so don't take the moral high ground here please.

The Taliban and Iraq were brought down because it was beneficial to the West. Rwanda, Sudan, North Korea, and Burma are left alone, because there's nothing that will benefit ourselves there.

**Major Robert Dump** · 02-13-2010, 21:06

If Afghanistan is so beneficial to the west, then where is my moustached, veiled wife and why hasn't she made me dinner?

I tell you, at least we got a bunch of hot vietnamese girls from that other war!!!

**Centurion1** · 02-13-2010, 21:07

Edit: sorry double post.

**Centurion1** · 02-13-2010, 21:09

You seem to have no problem with human rights abuses anywhere else, so don't take the moral high ground here please.

The Taliban and Iraq were brought down because it was beneficial to the West. Rwanda, Sudan, North Korea, and Burma are left alone, because there's nothing that will benefit ourselves there.

Don't make assumptions about my character, please. First of all America probably gives more money than any other nation to charity.

what do you do. i give to charity. its naive to imagine you can help everyone

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 02-13-2010, 20:54

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Oh, so he doesn't want to export his madness abroad. Well, I guess that means we should just let the dude chop off hands and stone women in peace, then.

Yeah.. you didn't actually read the article, did you?

The claim is that the Afghan Mullahs did not support Bin Laden, ergo attacking Afghanistan was not justified. It doesn't say the country was ever a Liberal egalitarian paradise.

**The Wizard** · 02-14-2010, 19:46

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Yeah.. you didn't actually read the article, did you?

The claim is that the Afghan Mullahs did not support Bin Laden, ergo attacking Afghanistan was not justified. It doesn't say the country was ever a Liberal egalitarian paradise.

And my post was a sarcastic rejection of such a preposterous idea. A barbarous regime like that of the Taliban has no right to sovereignty or legitimacy.

Originally Posted by Beskar

The Taliban and Iraq were brought down because it was beneficial to the West. Rwanda, Sudan, North Korea, and Burma are left alone, because there's nothing that will benefit ourselves there.

No, they're left alone because they have friends in high places (Russia and China, anyone?). Afghanistan lost those after 9/11.

And how exactly do you infer from the fact that I was wrong about the Geneva Conventions (something which I admitted) that I have no problem with human rights abuses or selectively apply moral and politically progressive outrage at savage regimes? Have you ever read any posts of mine about any of the countries you've mentioned? No? Then keep quiet.

Originally Posted by Frag

Well yeah, they are horrible but it's a horrible place, but if this is true it isn't our problem. If they aren't a threat I have no business in their home.

Democracies have business in any oppressor's home. They also have business outside the home of anybody being oppressed. An attitude like yours is cowardly and beneficial to evil regimes across the globe.

**Fragony** · 02-14-2010, 01:53

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Oh, so he doesn't want to export his madness abroad. Well, I guess that means we should just let the dude chop off hands and stone women in peace, then.

Well yeah, they are horrible but it's a horrible place, but if this is true it isn't our problem. If they aren't a threat I have no business in their home.