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    What can you tell me about this country?

    What can you tell me about visiting this country?

    What can you tell me about the wimmens?
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    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    I hear the weather's great and as a Dutch speaker I <3 Afrikaners
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    Ok SFTS. Most of my family lives out there, and my father was born there --- the run down.

    - Beautiful, yet troubled place. Many refugees, much inequality, much violence and plenty of crime.

    - Visiting? No. Unless you know the country well I would not advise it at all. Highly likely you will get mugged or worse. Do not travel on public transport. Drive only. Lock your car when driving. Do not walk the streets. Do not display valuables. Visit touristy places only. Do not go to anywhere other than Cape Town or the Kruger National Park. DO NOT go to Jo-berg.

    - Women? Hot, but impossible to meet.

    Any locals want to dispell my fears please do so. However, as a descendant of a British Seth Efricken and a British Nambian I feel it is my duty to warn tourists of the dangers.
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    What can you tell me about this country?
    Awesome, if troubled/doomed.

    What can you tell me about visiting this country?

    Go now! There are countries out there so pretty they beat France and almost rival Texas.

    What can you tell me about the wimmens?
    I dated one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    What can you tell me about the wimmens?
    I dated one.
    Same:

    #Hillary4prism

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    On Psychonaut's advice: I visited Jo-berg. I was brutally slashed up and mugged by two guys with giant knifes, with five hundred onlookers not doing a thing. I am afraid my impression is that South Africa indeed is every bit as dangerous as people say it is. (It's almost as bad as North Paris. I might follow you one day to your Australian hide-out.)

    So yes, do take every bit of advice you get seriously. SA is not merely criminal, it is violent. Men get their belongings stolen, then get to see what a knife looks like up close. Then afterwards everybody will look at you at amazed, in utter disbelief: 'how on earth did you let you off? Why were you not murdered? How come you only have minor cuts?'
    Women for their part don't get their purse snatched, they get snatched themselves and gang-raped.

    I was at the police station after I got mugged. The sights there...
    Some poor woman sat opposite me, who was just brutally raped, and looked it. In a complete state. She was screaming in the waiting room. Cops were barely interested, they could barely cope with all the other people, most of them bleeding. She was just another statistic.


    What a war zone.



    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Same:

    Was her name by any chance 'Tracy' and did she study at Grahamstown?

    Would be awesome if its the same girl.
    Last edited by Louis VI the Fat; 02-13-2010 at 19:57.
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    Your post may be light-hearted Loius, but this is no laughing matter. Please STFS do not take South Africa lightly. My Grandmother was mudered by violent gangs, and the police there are too corrupt to be any use. So if you are truly considering going there, please please please be careful and aware of the dangers.

    On a less intense note.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis
    Was her name by any chance 'Tracy' and did she study at Grahamstown?
    No. Out of curiosity was she an Afrikaner or a African-Brit?
    Last edited by naut; 02-13-2010 at 20:21.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut View Post
    Out of curiosity was she an Afrikaner or a African-Brit?
    Of thoroughbred 1820's settler stock, Eastern Cape, and smoking hot.

    (My post was serious...)
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    It's aweseome, avoid a few places, but you don't really have to. Never went there myself but two friends of mine, both bleeding hot blondettes, had zero problems in the edgy parts. Stupid bimbo's were looking for weed, good thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    What can you tell me about this country?

    What can you tell me about visiting this country?

    What can you tell me about the wimmens?
    Its great, and dangerous.

    Best captured with a good camera, which must look rubbish so as not to get robbed.

    Beautiful, but raddled with AIDS.
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    Actaully from this thread Mexico sounds like paradise compared to SA

    And the reason I ask this question is I plan to spend some extended time in some place outside of my hemisphere. I have narrowed it down to

    -France, UK, And the low countries
    -India
    -South Africa

    And since I know the littlest about SA I thought Id ask
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    What can you tell me about this country?

    What can you tell me about visiting this country?

    What can you tell me about the wimmens?
    The country is great. You should go, but this is one of these places where you need to do your homework, as a wander into the wrong area at the wrong time will cost you.
    Jozi is a great place. But even more so than in Capetown you must listen to your common sense and keep it always on. (Examples: Don't stop at traffic lights at night if there is no traffic, don't stop at places where there are suspicious looking youths loitering, keep the valuables in the trunk so as not to get smash-n-grabbed, etc.)

    I don't think SFTS needs to worry about rape, but do remember HIV is high, specially among black women. Women are generally very beautiful, and haughty, but that depends on the kind of challenge you enjoy - i trust you will develop an eye for prostitutes soon, and, well, if you don't, they will let you know how much...

    Joburg international is well served from London, Paris, Amsterdam, and Madrid to name a few. You will need a car to move around as the cities a large, and public transport unsafe for whites, and even more so for tourists. Whatever you do do not get into arguments with taxi drivers, as they are usually armed. Many areas you can go to with locals but can be dangerous on your own, places such as Soweto, Diepsloot, or Alexandra. On a highway, specially at night, don't stop for anything, even punctures, until you get to a petrol station.

    Enjoy the scenery, near Joburg I recommend Hartebeesport Dam, and all the lion parks and nature reserves, and visit Carnivore, it's a restaurant slightly outside the city where you can eat many of the game animals. Also, get a GPS. This is a must.

    Anyway, let me know if you have any specific questions, I have spent 6 months in Joburg last year and loved it. Plus, as the russians say: you will die at most once.
    Last edited by SwordsMaster; 02-15-2010 at 19:16.
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