Let's all join the National Guard!!!

[The Wizard]

Oh please AP even I swell up with misplaced patriotism presented with that second vid of yours

[Husar]

Oh please AP even I swell up with misplaced patriotism presented with that second vid of yours

Perhaps because hometowns, loving parents, nice tanks, nice helicopters, flags and freedom aren't exclusively United Statesian?
At least those russian paratroopers are manly and don't go all mushy when they sing a song.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Perhaps it's possible for perfectly natural behavior to be sexist?

Of course.This is an obvious statement which feminists are fond of using but sexism differs. A commercial, an advertisement displaying common courting behaviour, flirting, is not the same as for instance, a commercial showing a woman walking by and all the men stopping and staring. The first merely depicts as common of a behaviour as it gets, a man attempting to attract a woman. The second likewise depicts a common occurrence, but the implication behind it is that women are treated, or rather, are to be treated as sexual objects, as opposed to say, exclaiming over a woman's intelligence.

One cannot avoid the first type of behaviour, as it is as essential as sexual reproduction, but the second does not necessarily have to be so. Women choose men, and men choose women, but since men are generally the ones with the more unbalanced sex drive, with the greater desire to mate, a woman chooses the man she wishes to date, and not vice versa. That is the opposite of sexist, instead, it is the empowerment of women. In accordance with this environment, males compete in modern-day mating displays.

Unless the feminists wish to regress to forced marriages and the days when women were but property, they would be wiser to keep quit for once. Unfortunately, there is no middle ground, unless you have a striking difference in the prestige of a male and female which skews the balance into the male side, enabling the male to choose as he wishes instead of vice versa. But I am sure the feminists do not wish that.

Oh please AP even I swell up with misplaced patriotism presented with that second vid of yours

When did I deny that I do not? But the picture of the American town did not seem to appeal to me much, so I was not as responsive to that video. But there are ones to which I do respond. Still, you assume many things. Your persona is different from mine. Each personality responds differently to the same stimuli, even if there are not as many so-called 'basic personalities' as most people who are fond of saying 'unique' would like. Who says I am not like HoreTore?



Hard to say now, now that I forgot how I felt during the video. But yes, I am not denying that some of the videos do appeal to me. They are superb, considering the targets of the recruiting ads, and that appeal is only partially lost to most other people.

EDIT: Ugh, I finally watched that video PI posted. Wow, I was not aware it was possible to misplace a soundtrack any more... Nice music, but this is no Peter Jackson production...

[Centurion1]

Military ads are often superbly done. im not surprised at all when i see a good military advertisement.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Military ads are often superbly done. im not surprised at all when i see a good military advertisement.

It all depends on what your interests, likes, dislikes, loyalties, etc are.

Like I said, HoreTore....

[Centurion1]

Like I said, HoreTore....

was actually in the military. yes he essentially hates it but in some ways he probably empathizes more with some of the more legitimate commercials than other people..... not that i speak for him of course.

[Aemilius Paulus]

was actually in the military.

Yah, I know, he makes a point of it very often, which distinguishes him from the rest of the stereotypical leftie-pacifist hippies...

yes he essentially hates it but in some ways he probably empathizes more with some of the more legitimate commercials than other people..... not that i speak for him of course.

The last part should be highlighted, bolded, circled, and underlined... I mean, who knows what he thinks? I would not enter such wild speculation.

[Centurion1]

which is why i backed it up with that little tidbit. plausible deniability of a sort.

[Viking]

Yah, I know, he makes a point of it very often, which distinguishes him from the rest of the stereotypical leftie-pacifist hippies...

Let's not forget that one year of army service is mandatory [for the unlucky ones] within these borders. I am actually supposed to be in the military right now, though with the standard excuse of being a student, my request for postponement got through; and I hope that I hear no more from them. No silly commercial can change this attitude.

[bobbin]

but since men are generally the ones with the more unbalanced sex drive, with the greater desire to mate, a woman chooses the man she wishes to date, and not vice versa.

Not strictly true, women have just as much of a sex drive as your average man it's just that it isn't as socially acceptable for them express it, if a man has lots of sex it's seen as something positive, if it is a women it's a negative thing.

That is the opposite of sexist, instead, it is the empowerment of women. In accordance with this environment, males compete in modern-day mating displays.

I'm sure they would rather get equal pay and not be made to feel insecure by pratically eveything in the media.

From looking at the ads I'd say they were pretty sexist as they imply that all women care about is money and power and that it is the only way men can get them. It's all done with a sense of humour and so it's supposed to be taken very seriously but the sentiment is still there, I mean blackface was done with a sense of humour but it was still wrong.

As for good army ads this one for the royal marines does the job pretty well.

[The Wizard]

tl;dr

Too serious

[Aemilius Paulus]

Yeah, well, all my posts are tl;dr, generally speaking

My strategy is that after navigating through half an hour of text the opposing debater is too tired to counter with any sort of logical defence.

On a more serious note, most of my school and college essays are tens of pages of mind-draining archaic, legalese and overly obtuse language, kept just at the right level and tone to prevent it from being mere pretentious diction. Behind those words are solid arguments, but before one gets to that, they would need to go through the overly-longwinded essay at least 10-20 pages above the assignment. So far, this tactic works well, and I have won a few essay contests, but I feel that once I go to graduate school, such essays will be the norm

[Ironside]

Why Swedes got good rep for peacekeeping. Say what you want, but it's very honest. And very non-american.

https://www.youtube.com/swedisharmed.../2/Ql9H12cNWk4

The tv commercials are in the style of quick mental tests, more aim for brains than brawns. Not found on youtube.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Well on the short list of good American ads, here's one from the Air Force;


CR

[Megas Methuselah]

This one could be worse, I guess. I noticed, however, that the most effective recruiting tools are 1st-person shooter games.

[Aemilius Paulus]

@ CR:
Lulz, marketing fail. They tried too hard to make a good ad - and the did, but that ad is well, I doubt how much it would influence most men under 25 or so - the effect would be about 'meh.'...

@ Meth:
Funny that you say so, because the US Army made free, yet for what I read, actually pretty passable FPS games for recruitment and propaganda purposes. America's Army it is called.

Official Site: http://www.americasarmy.com/
Wikipedia Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Army

[The Wizard]

Why Swedes got good rep for peacekeeping. Say what you want, but it's very honest. And very non-american.

https://www.youtube.com/swedisharmed.../2/Ql9H12cNWk4

The tv commercials are in the style of quick mental tests, more aim for brains than brawns. Not found on youtube.

It's still the same stuff, only done differently: we bring peace and prosperity, yay us!

Unless the two Swedish bits said something entirely different, of course...

EDIT: Dutch army commercials are a lot like the Canadian ones, with a bit of the Swedish ones mixed in. Yeah you can learn stuff for your later career, oh and we help people and build nations while we do it, come be a 21st century hero with us