Who was the best Roman general?

[CashMunny]

From a roman point of view, marching an roman army upon rome itself, was probably one of the worst offences imaginable.

Was it worse than allowed corruption and greed to go unchecked? Was it worse than allowing the plebians to be stripped of all their land and rights? Was it worse than allowing the Senators who were trying to be good Romans to be killed by the misguided rage of a fed up mob? Was it worse than allowing complete chaos on the streets?

[A_Dane]

Indeed it was, you just didn't march on Rome with a roman army, especially not if your imperium was already challenged :)

I'm not saying I think he did wrong, just that from his fellow (atleast upper class) citizens, it was an extremely un-roman thing to do. Gaius Marius never expected it, because a "proper roman" would never do it ;)

[moonburn]

the same gaius marius who unleashed thousands of gladiators and allow them to murder and pillage all of his roman opponents and several other people who wheren´t into politics ?

[A_Dane]

Never said Marius was a "proper" roman, now did i? ;)

And if i remember correctly, he did this after Sulla marched on Rome :)

I'm merely saying, that from the romans of the tiems point of view, marching on Rome with an army, was not very roman :)

[CashMunny]

Indeed it was, you just didn't march on Rome with a roman army, especially not if your imperium was already challenged :)

I'm not saying I think he did wrong, just that from his fellow (atleast upper class) citizens, it was an extremely un-roman thing to do. Gaius Marius never expected it, because a "proper roman" would never do it ;)

It might have been 'un-roman', but so were all of those other things. Romans were supposed to be austere, incorruptible, and to uphold the integrity of their institutions. Sulla wasn't marching a Roman army against Rome, he was marching a Roman army to save Rome.