Change?

[Aemilius Paulus]

I often sympathise with YEC's, because 99% of the people who mock their ideas probably know nothing about either the big bang or the Bible, they just believe it because the scientiests do.

Yep. The only problem is, is that the YEC-ites know nothing about even the most basic scientific principles when formulating their arguments. People never know anything. Even the most educated have trouble grasping the full implications of the government policies. We always operate in ignorance. Anyone who tells you that something is more simple than you think, anyone who explains something in a manner that makes a lot fo sense, is very likely to be a fraud.

Such is the fact of life. And so, the people choose the side which seems to be the most trustworthy. An appeal for the people to challenge science directly, as the YEC-ites are doing, is utter bollox, because all those challenges are grounded on ignorance of science. I would actually respect the YEC-ites is they followed the scientific method, if they used valid debating scientific techniques. Yet, if any YEC-ite were to be put in a situation where they would have to present their argument to a peer review panel, the would be laughed off - not because their hypothesis challenges the mainstream consensus, but because their argumentative methods are utterly simplistic, invalid, or plain deceptive and fallacious.

That's defintely something that has never changed - there are always only a few intellectual elites when compared to the masses that know very little about the world and just take what the elites say for granted.

Now you are thinking . Certainly true. Nothing regrettable either - people are not made to decide on their own - the vast, vast majority simply follows the lead. Including all of us.

Whenever I have had any sort of discussion with someone in RL on politics/science/religion or whatever, pretty much everything they say would get torn apart in seconds on these forums, because they are so filled with logical fallacies/ad hominems/whatever. Some of the latest comments from RL include "Enoch Powell was right", "person x down the road lost some service because Muslim immigrants are taking all the money", "Scotland is for the Scots". Well, you get the idea...

Yep, I was repeating this point of yours. But, you have no debatable points... You meant this to be so, huh?



The only reason why I respect YEC is because they stand by their beliefs, and fail to compromise their religion. Say whatever you wish about Christianity, but I doubt it is compatible with most sciences or, say, homosexuality. And no, I am not asking for a debate here, PVC

sounds familiar, certainly.

But you seem to usually speak out against people who do so. Why?